ought to say that we are always wise, and never foolish. For truly there is not one of us all, but -if any one rubs us upon the sore place-will be sure to kick, merely because he dares to say the truth. Try it, and he who does so will find it as I say. For however vicious we are at heart, we like to be considered prudent and free from sin." How this passage can be forced into any other meaning, I do not understand. On the one hand, women are said to be pleased with untrue flattery; on the other, they are displeased with unflattering truth. The one they receive with graciousness and smiles, the other they kick at and resent. The word kike, to kick, is in Wiclif's Bible, Acts ix. 5; with a past tense kikide, Deut. xxxii. 15; and a past tense plural kikiden, 2 Kings vi. 6. That Chaucer also employs the word in the different sense of to peep, is, of course, granted; but how the sense of peeping can have any place here, I do not see. We have no authority for making it signify to look with approval; it simply means to peep, gaze, or look about searchingly without either approval or disapproval. Surely, too, the galled jade winces, not peeps about. Cambridge. WALTER W. SKEAT. "POVERTY PARTS GOOD COMPANY" (5th S. i. 288.)-This forms the last line of the eighth verse of that rare old Gloucestershire ballad, George Ridler's Oven; and as it is good enough to be more widely known, although printed in Halliwell's Prov. and Arch. Dict., and in Dr. Latham's English Language, vol. ii., it would, I am sure, please the taste of many of your readers to see it given at length in "N. & Q.," where it would be in keeping with similar ballad literature to which you have already accorded space. It is remarkable that a society of charitable aim, called the "Gloucestershire Society," meet annually at the White Lion Hotel, in Bristol, where its members dine together, and retain the custom of singing this song of George Ridler's Oven directly after the removal of the cloth. I should like to know the origin of the society, and the date of the song, which they thus so pleasantly perpetuate."GEORGE RIDLER'S OVEN. 1. The stowns that built George Ridler's Oven, 2. One thing of George Ridler I must commend, 3. There's Dick the treble and John the mean, "When my o'erlay was white as the foam on the linn, We met at the fair, and we met at the kirk, Leaves frae the tree, at Marti'mas flee, Sae lat it be,-for the warldly an' slie Dunfermline. A. T. This song is in Allan Cunningham's Songs of Scotland, i. 330. It is called "Todlen Hame," and begins "When I hae saxpence under my thumb." According to Cunningham, it is not modern, but very old. C. F. S. WARREN, M.A. This song was first inserted in an annual, FriendSTEPHEN JACKSON. ship's Offering. A CURIOUS RELIC OF OLD CALCUTTA (5th S. i. 466.) The second verse in this very curious account, nor with those quoted by Mr. Mark "Bishop Guthrie records that, in the year 1640, Argyle and interesting ballad-epitaph probably refers to "Hark how the Corslets ring! Why are the Blacksmiths out to-day, beating those men at the spring?" &c. The allusions to Fairlight Church and Fairlight Lee in the next verse point to Sussex and the neighbourhood of Hastings as the scene of Joseph Townsend's early recollections. The Ashburnhams were an ancient and distinguished Sussex family, which makes it all the more probable that an Ashburnham" would be the representative champion of the Royalist party in that district. The remembrances of the skirmish in verse 1 probably describe an event which happened many years before the seizure of J. Townsend by the press-gang, verse 2, immediately before his intended marriage. No doubt verse 3 describes (as your correspondent suggests) the rescue of two Indian widows from the funeral pile-one of whom I infer became the "nut-brown bride" of J. Townsend, and the mother of "Young Joe," who was "nearly 60" at the time of his father's death in 1738, aged 86. LINDIS. P.S. Joseph Townsend died in 1738, aged 86. See epitaph. He was therefore born several years after the battles of Marston Moor and Naseby (1644 and 1645), and one year after the battle of Worcester (1651). His earliest recollections could, therefore, only be of the local skirmishes following these battles in various parts of England. "THE BONNY HOUSE OF AIRLIE" (5th S. ii. 28, 74.)-May I beg the Editor kindly to grant me a little more space in his valuable pages? I am as much puzzled as ever, though in a different way. I must own I had forgotten, when I wrote my note, that the destruction of Airlie Castle took place before Montrose's rupture with the Covemanters. I cannot plead ignorance of the fact, but I carelessly and stupidly forgot it. Of course, as W. G. (whom I beg to thank for his kind reply) reminds me, it would be quite natural to find Montrose and Argyle acting in at least apparent concert at that time. But I cannot reconcile the Duke of Argyle's statement, that "the raid was actively supported by Montrose," with Spalding's If the Duke really meant no more than this, I cannot see why he should have spoken of it as a new and accidental discovery, when it was all to be found in Spalding and Guthrie, and more easily in Napier. Still less can I understand how he could have called this "actively supporting the raid." According to Guthrie, Montrose was directly opposed to it; according to Spalding and Gordon, he had nothing to do with it, but his own. proceedings against Airlie had been distinct from Argyle's, and quite different from them, as different as the characters of the two men. Still, perhaps this is all that was meant, and I have interpreted a passage in a playful speech too literally and seriously. If so, my excuse is my desire for historical information, and my zeal for the memory of one, the details of whose career, I firmly believe, have no need to fear the strongest light. M. L. "THE ALTHORPE PICTURE GALLERY": MARY J. JOURDAN (5th S. i. 348, 435, 516; ii. 70.)-I wish to add a few particulars to MR. MASON'S account of the Jourdan family, which may interest him and OLPHAR HAMST. The "weaver," John Jourdan, was the grandson of Anthony Jourdan, of Toulouse, who was one of the band of noble refugees who sacrificed their property and their national ties for the sake of religion and conscience, at the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes. Many of these established themselves in the silk trade, in consequence of their connexions in the South of France. Among these was John Jourdan, who, in partnership with Mr. D'Albiac (grandfather of the Duchess of Roxburgh), carried on the business of a silk-weaver in Spitalfields. His wife, Susanna, was the third daughter of John Jacob Zornlin (my grandfather), of the firm of Battier & Zornlin, who ranked very high among the English merchants of the last century. Colonel Jourdan was married early in the year 1815, in Java, where he held a high official appointment. Some of his children died young. Henry Francis Holcombe was the first who attained maturity. The armorial bearings of the Jourdan (or Jourdain) family are-gules, a cross pattée, or; 1 crest, a mailed arm embowed, holding a cutlass. It is not in my power to give any information respecting Mary J. Jourdan, except that she was the daughter of Colonel Holcombe, not Halcombe. Z. Z. TURQUET DE MAYERNE (5th S. ii. 48.)-Is this, or Turquet Mayerne, the real name? It appears, I believe, in the latter form in a volume of his works in the British Museum Library. T. W. WEBB. TO PROAT (5th S. ii. 49.)-To proat is the G. protzen, to show one's ill will or displeasure by a surly silence.-Küttner. A somewhat different form of the word is given by Halliwell, "Prutten, to be proud, to hold up the head with pride and disdain." The origin of the foregoing, as well as of the G. trotzen, is to be found in the interjection of displeasure, prut! trut! representing a blurt of the mouth with the protruded lips. See Pout in my Dictionary. H. WEDGWOOD. Halliwell has prute, "to wander about like a young child," and this, I take it, is a form of the word for which F. H. inquires. Shinfield Grove. W. T. M. MARY OF BUTTERMERE (5th S. i. 47.)-In "N. & Q." 1st S. viii. 26, under the heading of Gossipping History," is a note of mine on De Quincey's account of Hatfield. I have nothing to add or alter, but wish to withdraw an opinion too hastily formed. I said, "I do not blame Mr. De Quincey, having no doubt that he believed what he was told." When I wrote that I was reading the Boston edition of his works. Long before I came to the end I felt that the compliment was entirely undeserved, for which, I think, satisfactory reasons are given in "Leslie and Dr. Middleton," 1st S. x. 33. U. U. Club. H. B. C. ALDERMAN JOHN PORTER (5th S. ii. 67) was MP. for Evesham in part of one Parliament, viz., from the general election of 1754 until his death, April 11, 1756. ALFRED B. BEaven, M.A. Preston. Allibone, in his Dictionary, says that Sir James Porter died at Bath. C. F. S. WARREN, M.A. THE FYNDERN MONUMENT IN CHILDREY CHURCH (5th S. ii. 68.)-P. will find a description of the Fynderne brasses, with a copy of the inscriptions on them, in Ashmole's Berks, vol. ii., pp. 208, 209, and 210, of the edition of 1719; also in Clarke's Hundred of Wanting, pp. 76 C. J. EYSTON. and 77. See Relton's Sketches of Churches, London, 1843, for a plate and full description in the accompanying text. It is a brass of a peculiar character, the crosses of the figures being filled with lead. The figure of Sir William Fynderne to the knees is in Boutell's Brasses and Slabs, p. 71, London, 1847. A description of the monument will also be found in the Oxford Manual, No. SAMUEL SHAW. 168, p. 61. Andover. THE WILLOW PATTERN (5th S. ii. 69.)-See the Family Friend (Houlston & Stoneman, London), vol. i. p. 124. H. FISHWICK, F.S.A. Vide Bentley's Miscellany, vol. iii., p. 61, published in 1838, where will be found "A True History of the Celebrated Wedgwood Hieroglyph, commonly called the Willow Pattern," by Mark WILLIAM WING. Lemon. Steeple Aston, Oxford. HISTORY OF SCOTLAND (5th S. ii. 68.)-If MR. MASON, who is good enough to appeal to me as to this work, will turn to that admirable Catalogue of the Printed Books in the Advocate's Library, now printing, on p. 680 of vol. ii. he will find that William Duff, M.A., was the author of the work he inquires for. See also Lowndes by Bohn, p. 2215. Allibone mentions an edition of 1750, probably after Watt, to whose Bibliotheca I cannot refer here. I take this opportunity of thanking MR. MASON for his reply on p. 70. New Barnet, Herts. OLPHAR HAMST. Not a man in England It is a parallel passage to that which I before quoted from the same play : "Said I for this the girl was like to him." So in the passage from Pericles: "And knowing this kingdom is without a head, Like [unto or to] goodly buildings left without a roof.” In Cowden Clarke's Concordance there is a reference, Tempest, Act i. sc. 2, "like to a nymph." In the only Shakspeare that I can refer to, being away from home, I find the to is omitted, "Enter Ariel like a water nymph." To what edition did the writer of the Concordance refer? CLARRY. "HUDIBRAS" (5th S. i. 489; 5th S. ii. 35.)— The Rev. Dr. T. R. Nash, in his edition of Hudibras (1835), remarks in a note to these lines (11. 559-562, Part I. canto i.): "Thus Cleveland, page 110. The next ingredient of a diurnal is plots, horrible plots, which with wonderful sagacity it hunts dry foot, while they are yet in their causes, before materia prima can put on her smock.'" Nichols (Literary Illustrations, edition 1822, 'Sphear'd in a radiant cloud (for yet the sun was not).”” In a very rare little book, Notes upon Hudibras, by Zachary Grey, LL.D., 1752, there is a note (p. 23), signed M. B. (Montagu Bacon), which after quoting the above line from Regnier continues :"And 'tis manifest, from the Context, that Butler means only a Ridicule on the Hermetick Gibberish, where there is much Talk of First Matter, and Chaos, and First Mass, and such Stuff: And by First Matter they mean Materia and Forma; which appears from a Book entitled A short Inquiry into the Hermetick Art, P. 79." The lines, then, are not "supposed to point to a particular individual," but are "only a Ridicule on the Hermetick Gibberish." SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS. 18, Kensington Crescent, W. SINGLE EYE-GLASSES (5th S. i. 489; ii. 50.)I fully endorse what E. D. F. says. I have used a glass in the left eye only for about twenty years, and now find that in shooting I invariably fire too much to the left. I have tried to counteract it by shutting the left eye, at the recommendation of an eminent gunmaker, and as that is very difficult always to do, he now recommends me to blacken the left glass of my shooting spectacles, we shall see with what result. BLACK EYE. "THE GLORY OF THEIR TIMES" (5th S. i. 408; ii. 33) is a book that is often priced according to a scale set upon it at the sales of famous collections; but it is occasionally to be had at its proper value. My copy cost me a few shillings. The same peculiarity in paging as is in D. C. E.'s copy appears in mine. This I take to be a dishonest printer's device for making the book seem bigger than it is. The companion volume about the Moderne Protestant Divines is of far greater rarity, but I have seen it on sale at much less prices than those named by MR. BUCKLEY, the copy in my possession having been bought for about one-fifth of the sum. It appears to have been acquired by Mr. Mitford in 1824, and he has added the date when he read it, viz., "Sept. 1836," with the note, "See Brit. Bibliog., vol. i. p. 478." The engraved front. has been most cleverly imitated by pen and ink. J. E. BAILEY. SONGS IN "ROKEBY" (5th S. i. 428, 515.)— Writing my former note on this subject hurriedly, I omitted from it the most beautiful of the songs:"O Brignall banks are wild and fair, And Greta woods are green; And you may gather garlands there Would grace a summer queen." Canto iii. stanza 16. JOHN PICKFORD, M.A. KNIGHT BIÖRN: DÜRER'S ETCHINGS (5th S. i. 167, 215, 356.)—I suppose the "snare " mentioned by MR. HOLT and MR. ADDIS in the "Knight and Death" is the curious twisted line near the hoof of the horse's off hind leg. I have the autotype of the etching before me, and believe that Mr. Ruskin and MR. ADDIS have undoubtedly explained it. I think the readers of "N. & Q." would be glad to have the picture in question and the Melencolia, its companion, interpreted on MR. ADDIS's theory by that gentleman. The one seems to me the type of "The Steadfast Will," the Melencolia of "The Intermittent, too versatile he were not more than human, must have felt and Will," tendencies to which latter the artist, if deplored in himself. PELAGIUS. FIELD-LORE CARR, ING, &c. (4th S. xi. xii. 5th S. i. passim; ii. 71.)—M. inquires what is the meaning of Flash, and suggests it may be reclaimed bog. In this parish, there is a marshy place in the hills known as the Flush-moss, in which peats were formerly cast, but it has been surface-drained, and is now grazed by sheep. There is a farm of the same name near Stewarton in Ayrshire, and the name Flosh occurs as the designation of two or three places in Annandale. Halliwell (fifth edition) has Flosche, "a pit or pool"; but, in the old English couplet quoted as an example, the word will apply equally well to a marsh. See, too, Flash, Flosh. term here for the hollows made by casting peat. Peat hag, also mentioned by M., is a common Another name applied here to marshy places is corse, which appears to be the same as carse, and to have some connexion with carr. Rulewater, Roxburghshire. W. E. "SITUATE" (5th S. i. 407; ii. 53.)-SIGMA asks, Are there any examples of the use of the word as a verb by any respectable writer?" In Love's Labour's Lost, Act i. sc. 2, Armado says,— "I will visit thee at the lodge. Jaq. That's hereby. Arm. I know where it is situate." Again, Comedy of Errors, Act ii. sc. 1, Luciana says, "Why, headstrong liberty is lash'd with woe. I should be glad to know whether grammarians FALCONET, THE ARTIST (5th S. ii. 8, 54.)-MR TRIMMER will find some interesting and authentic facts about the Falconets in Jal's Dictionnaire Critique de Biographie et d'Histoire. See the second edition, and refer also to the corrections at the end of the volume. OLPHAR HAMST. INVERTED COMMAS (5th S. i. passim; ii. 37, 56, 97.)-I differ very much from JABEZ I have proved (from Timperly) that these marks were originally used (1496) for the purpose of quotation only. Other writers have shown that they were afterwards employed for emphasizing also, but not before the time of Queen Elizabeth; and when they ceased to be used in this latter way, has not been decided. As to the "modern instance" from the Times, it is quite clear that the word "accomplished" is not used there according to its real meaning, but according to its misapplication; and it is therefore quoted in this sense, and marked accordingly. MEDWEIG. CHARLES I. AS A POET (5th S. i. 322, 379, 435; ii. 93.)-Before this subject is dismissed, I would beg leave to quote a passage from the late Professor Craik's Literature and Learning in England, ed. 1845, vol. iv. p. 66: "It is not easy to understand the meaning of Horace Walpole's judgment on Charles's style, that it was formed between a certain portion of sense, dignity, and perhaps a little insincerity.' What he says of a copy of verses said to have been written by his majesty during his confinement in Carisbrook Castle, is more to the purpose: The poetry is most uncouth and inharmonious; but there are strong thoughts in it, some good sense, and a strain of majestic piety. Though not very polished, indeed, or very like the production of a practised versifier, which goes so far to furnish a presumption of its authenticity, this composition, which is entitled Majesty in Misery, or an Imploration to the King of Kings,' indicates poetic feeling, and an evident familiarity with the highest models." The above quotations from Horace Walpole are out of his Royal and Noble Authors. J. W. W. REV. STEPHEN CLARKE (5th S. i. 208, 255, 298, 438; ii. 77.)-Provincial printing is a subject that has claimed my attention for a year or two past, but I have at present failed to discover an earlier specimen of Malton printing than a tract quoted by Archdeacon Cotton in his Typographical Gazetteer, of which the following is a collation : "Modest and Candid Reflections on Dr. Middleton's Examination of the Right Reverend the Lord Bishop of London's Use and Intent of Prophecy: In a Letter to the Honourable G. Lyttelton, Esq., from Thomas Comber, A.B. "Malton: Printed by J. N. for Messrs. Knapton, Booksellers in St. Paul's Church yard. M,DCC,L. [Price from East-Newton, Feb. 3d, 1750." One Shilling and Six-pence.] 12mo. pp. 100. Dated The second edition of Rev. Stephen Clarke's Discourses, being posthumous, may be as late or later than this; it is certainly after 1746, for in that year I find Mr. Clarke subscribing 11. 6s. to the Yorkshire Association. Mr. Robert Davies, in his Memoirs of the York Press, tells us that Nicholas Nickson, printer, became a freeman of York by patrimony in 1754, and carried on business till 1777. What relation was he, if any, to Joshua Nickson, of Malton? Oxford. W. H. ALLNUTT. REV. SAMUEL HARDY, B.A. (5th S. ii. 8, 55), the author of many astronomical and theological works, was born in 1720, and became a Fellow of Emanuel College, Cambridge. From a sermon of his, entitled The Eucharist prov'd to be a Material Sacrifice; and the Necessity of Constant Communion; prov'd from the Nature of the Christian Covenant, preached on "Good Friday, April the 8th, 1748," I find he was then Curate of Layham." He was afterwards Rector of Blakenham Parva, Suffolk, and Lecturer and Master of the Free School at Enfield. His most important work seems to have been an edition of the New Testament, "6 Scholiis Theologicis et Philologicis," published anonymously in 1768, and again in 1778. A third edition appeared in 1820. He died in 1793. cum SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS. 18, Kensington Crescent, W. In my copy of the Account of the Nature and Ends of the Holy Eucharist, 12mo., 1763, I find the following, in the handwriting of the Rev. Wm. Layton, fifty years rector of St. Matthew's, Ipswich :— "Hardy, Sam. Eman. A.B., 1741; rector of Blakenham Parva 1764; many years lecturer and master of the Free School at Enfield. He died at Tottenham, Dec. 14, 1793, aged 73." On the title of his book on the Eucharist, he is believe he was resident in this town many years, said to be curate of St. Clement's, Ipswich. I consequently he comes into my collection of Ipswich authors. I find I have the following: "An Answer to Mr. Chubb's Enquiry concerning Redemption: the Substance of Nine Sermons at Layham, Suffolk. 8vo. Ipswich, 1744." "Nov. Testamentum Græcum: cum scholiis Theol. et Phil. 2 vols. 8vo., 1768." |