""Twas at the Birthnight Ball, sir, As down the dance, And off she cast her shoe. Amazed at such a pause, sir, And tho' unused to trackle, Her Royal shoe to buckle. The vestal maids of honour, The Prince survey'd their beauty, Admired their zeal, But told them he conceiv'd, This soon might be retrieved. The Princess soon was shod, sir, Might dance from night to noon, Were monded half as soon. Doodle-doodle-doo, And know not what to do." " COLLINS TRELAWNY. At the Court ball, given in celebration of Queen Charlotte's birthday (January 18, 1782), the Princess Royal, during the first country dance, caught the fringe of her petticoat in the buckle of her shoe, which brought the dance to an abrupt termination. This incident gave rise to the song inquired for by “J. C. C.” The twenty-four persons who took part in this memorable dance were Prince of Wales, Duke of Cumberland, Mr. Greville, Lady A. Campbell, Princess Royal, Lady Salisbury, Lady Stormont, Lady Aylesford, Lady Frances Finch, The first number of the European Magazine (January, 1782) contains an engraving of the Princess Royal and the Prince of Wales dancing a minuet. WILLIAM RAYNER. Harrington Street, Hampstead Road, N.W. "PRESTER JOHN" AND THE ARMS OF THE SEE OF CHICHESTER (4th S. xii. passim; 5th S. i. 15, 177, 217, 359, 450.) - In reply to MR. MACKENZIE WALCOTT'S query standing at the head of his last paper, I take leave to ask a question and to make a statement. My question is, if the arms of Christchurch, Canterbury, be not a "pall," what are they? My statement is, that I have said nothing whatever of the arms of "St. Peter's, York." In addition, I maintain that the arms of the See of Hereford are three leopards' heads, and described by Peter Heylin thus :-" Gules, 3 Leopards Heads reversed, swallowing as many Flower-de-luces, Or." Bishop Sparrow's description is identical. As Bishop Cantelupe did not occupy the See of Hereford until 1275, I would further beg to ask what were "the arms" before his time, and why now they "show his shield"? I quite accept MR. WALCOTT's assurance that he meant no sneer"; but he must allow me in return to "rebut the impeachment" (if it be such) of "jesting observations on cathedral armories in general," or that what I wrote was "a diversion from the original subject." It was a manifest logical sequence for which MR. WALCOTT is responsible, and of which he has attempted no explanation. EDMUND TEW, M.A. JOHN LUSON (5th S. i. 449.) -Suckling has given a brief pedigree of the Luson family of Suffolk. William Luson was lord of the manor of Gunton in 1724. Sir John Luson, Knt. of Kent, is mentioned in Coll. Topog. et Gen., vol. vii., 207, as "a stranger in London, 1595." He was "Deputy Lyuftenant and Captayne of 314 trayned fot meyn." Thomas Luson held lands in "Vlnorhampton": see Leland's Notes of Staffordshire Families, Ib. vol. iii., 340. The name often occurs as Levison, Leuson, and Lewson. The name (Luson) will be found in the list of those persons who signed against "any change of the Book of Common Prayer," 1562. A Mons de Lusan was Governor of Blois, 1591; Lansd. MSS., 148, f. 158. Robert Luson, whose marriage with Jane Vaughan is recorded in the Somerset House chapel register, 1751, was son of the above William. Jane died 28th of May, 1816, at the advanced age of 116, and was buried in Bunhill Fields, per CEREVISIA (5th S. i. 485.)-Pliny (H.N.) would with a fine book-plate in it; it appears to be paged seem to suggest that this word is of Gaulish Gray's Inn. P.S. Roget de Belloguet (Gloss. Gaulois) gives "cerevisia, dans Ulpien, Dig. 33, tit. 6. 1. 9, notre cervoise ou bière, en K. kuref ou kuruf, Z. kwryf, bière forte; Ar. koref, aujourdh., kufr; C. koref. Lek nous offre encore keirch, avoine; Ar. kerc'h; C. kerh ; Ir. koirke; E. kork." "THE GLORY OF THEIR TIMES; OR, THE LIVES OF THE PRIMITIVE FATHERS" (5th S. i. 408.)-This work is by Donald Lupton, and will be found in Lowndes, who mentions several other works by him. It cannot be regarded as scarce, nor as of much critical value, but it is useful as giving the leading facts of the lives, lists of works, and sayings of the Fathers, much in the manner of Fuller's Abel Redivivus. Another work of a similar character by Lupton-" The History of the Modern Protestant Divines, London, by J. Okes, 1637, 12mo," with engraved heads from Holland's Heroologia and Verheiden's Effigies, is of great rarity, as may be seen by the notice of it in the Preface to the Life of Dean Nowell, by the Ven. Archdeacon Ralph Churton, pp. ix-xiii, and in Beloe's Anecdotes of Literature, vol. i. p. 188, edition 1807; p.193, ed. 1814. There is a copy of this volume in Sir William Tite's Catalogue, No. 1903, for which he gave 4l. 4s. in 1856. Dr. Bliss's copy became mine for about the same sum at the sale of his library. It contains a note by him that the plates were afterwards used for Fuller's Abel Redivivus in 1651. Writing these lines from Middleton Cheney, which was for nearly forty years the home of my venerated predecessor, Archdeacon Churton, I would pay my tribute of respect to his memory as a writer, and call attention to his Preface to the Life of Nowell as full of interest, information, and affection. The terms in which he speaks of Mr. Gough are singularly tender and touching. W. E. BUCKLEY. The author of the above is reputed to have been Donald Lupton. I have a copy in my possession wrong from p. 64, jumping to p. 77, but there is no matter missing. It seems to have sold, according to Bohn's Lowndes's Bibliographer's Manual, at various prices, the highest mentioned being 1l. There is a pencil note in my copy as follows: "A copy of this scarce book was sold at Burton's sale of Mr. Bracebridge's library in Liverpool. April, 1818, for 21. 5s., which was considered under its value." D. C. E. The Crescent, Bedford. "THE LIGHTHOUSE," &c. (5th S. i. 468.)-I copy this beautiful and characteristic specimen of Moore's style from an edition, poorly printed, and carelessly revised, published at Philadelphia in 1827: "The scene was more beautiful far to my eye, In the shadowy waves' playful motion, From the dim distant hill, till the Light-house fire blazed Like a star in the midst of the ocean. No longer the joy of the sailor boy's breast Was heard in his wildly breathed numbers, One moment I looked from the hil's gentle slope,- That star of life's tremulous ocean. The time is long past, and the scene is afar, J. H. I. OAKLEY. This is in "Sacred Poetry, Edinburgh, William Oliphant, 1827. Seventh Edition," where it is given to P. M. James. CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.А. THE SWIFT FAMILY (5th S. i. 485.) - One of our kirgs shrewdly observed that he could make any man a lord, but that God Almighty alone could make a gentleman. But in this our day, "gentle man" has declined into a middle term between esquire and yeoman. My direct ancestor, Godwin, the possessor of Goderiche, was lineally descended from Sir Robert Swift of Rotherham (temp. Eliz.), whose son was created by James I. Viscount Carlingford; his daughter was married to the Earl of Dumfries, the ancestor of the Marquis of Bute. His eldest son dying without issue male, the viscountcy descended to his second son, through whom it descended, de jure, to Godwin, the Attorney-General of the Irish Palatinate, and to his present inheritor by the first wife, with the title conferred a few weeks ago (baronially) on Mr. Fortescue. a The Goderiche estate was devised by Godwin to the Rev. Thomas Swift, the issue of his second marriage. In his hereditary royalism he sold portion thereof, and presented its purchase-money, three thousand broad pieces of gold, to Charles I. in aid of his contest with Cromwell. For this he was rewarded by the Roundheads with misusage and spoliation; by Charles II. with verbal thanks, His Majesty needing, as he said, to make friends of his enemies, whereas Mr. Swift was his friend ready made. The residence of the Goderiche estate came, in process of time, to my elder brother, who (his only son having died) levied a fine and devised it to his grand-daughter in fee simple. The young lady survived him but a short time, having devised it to her mother, who will, I suppose, leave it to her son by her former marriage. Thus has our ancient family estate been swept away, leaving me no remains of "The Swift Family" but my patriarchal race of children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren, with the honour of being the head of the second branch. The slovenly mode of registering the Protestant denizens in Ireland appears by the said "William Swift, Gent," having been a clergyman; his father, the Rev. Thomas Swift, and himself having been the rectors, successively, for fifty-five years, of St. Andrew's parish, in Canterbury, as recorded on their monument in that church. EDMUND LENTHALL SWIFTE. ST. VERDIANA (5th S. i. 509.) - August Potthast, in his Bibliotheca Historica Medii Aevi, has the following reference to this person :--"Vita S. Verdianæ virg. Castelli-Florentii in Etruria AA. SS. ab Attone episcopo latine scripta. Boll. I. Febr., i., p. 257-263; cf. commentar. prævius, ibid. p. 255-257. K. P. D. Е. St. Verdiana would seem to be the same with "Viridiana, Ste. Verdienne, V. à Florence; en Italien, Verdiana," mentioned in the Vocab. Hagiologique of Ménage. Some account of her is found in Zedler's Lexicon, "Der Gedächtniss-Tag R. S. CHARNOCK. ist der 1 Feb." composer, said to Sheridan, "You are afraid of the author of The School for Scandal." I have not access to the work, but MR. MATTHEWS will find the story related by Kelly in the second volume of his very amusing Reminiscences, edited by Theodore Hook. T. J. BENNETT. "HAD BE" (5th S. i. 124.) -I see that no one of your readers has thought it worth while to express either assent to or dissent from my attempt to explain this usage. I must say it seems to me to stand very much in need of explanation. It is surely ungrammatical, and not only is it used every hour in common life, but also frequently by our best poets in serious passages. I do not find any mention of it either by Dr. Morris in his Accidence, by Mr. Earle in his Philology of the English Tongue, or by Dr. Abbott in his Shakespearian Grammar. F. J. V. THE "VENGEUR" (5th S. i. 502.) -My grandfather commanded the "Culloden" in the action of the 1st June, 1794. In his Naval Chronology, vol. ii., p. 268, he mentions nothing of the details which M. Wallon and Louis Blanc would feign believe of the sinking of the ship; if they are right, he would hardly have omitted them; his words are, "Le Vengeur sunk before the whole of her crew could be taken out, not more than 280 of whom could be saved." Отто. [The gross exaggerations of Barère and Jean Bon St. André have alone thrown a doubt on the actual heroism of the crew of the Vengeur du Peuple" in their ،، gallant fight with the "Brunswick" on "the glorious 1st of June," 1794. When the "Vengeur" was reduced to a complete wreck, she displayed a Union Jack over her quarter as a token of submission and a desire to be relieved. As soon as it could be done, the boats of the "Alfred" and the "Culloden" rescued, it is said, above 400 of the brave French crew, and among them the "Vengeur's" captain, Renaudin, who did not remain with the few who were left aboard. In the account given by Captain Renaudin, -the only really truthful one, he says that the men who were still on board the vessel, and who could not be saved before she went down, "imploraient, en poussant des cris lamentables, des secours qu'ils ne Nous entendions en nous pouvaient plus espérer.. éloignant, quelques uns de nos camarades former encore des vœux pour leur patrie. Les derniers cris de ces infortunés furent ceux de Vive la République!' ils moururent en les prononçant." The "Vengeur's" crew surrendered, and asked to be saved from perishing. Nearly all were saved. The heroic few who saw doom inevitable met it, like the brave sailors that they were. They lose no honour by having the simple and creditable truth told of them and their memorable gallantry in the glorious fight between the fleets of Howe and VillaretJoyeuse. Victors and vanquished were of the stuff of true-hearted men ] "YALE COLLEGE MAGAZINE" (5th S. i. 448.) The Rev. Robert Aikman, a presbyterian clergyman, of Madison, in the state of New Jersey, was living in 1871, when the last Yale triennial was printed. A letter addressed to him would probably obtain most of the desired information. The Hon. William M. Everts, one of the editors of the Yale College Magazine, is now a distinguished lawyer in New York City. The Rev. Charles Rich was born at Boston, Sept. 12, 1809, and, after fitting for college, made several voyages, first as a sailor, and afterwards as mate of a vessel. He then entered Yale College, and, in 1838, at the age of twenty-nine, graduated. After studying divinity, he was settled as a minister, first in Washington, D.C., then in Nantucket, Mass., and finally, in Buffalo, N.Y. About 1853 he gave up preaching, and went into mercantile business in Beardstown, Illinois, where he died Oct. 31, 1862. Messrs. Edwin Osgood Carter and William Smith Scarborough were living in 1871, according to the triennial. The Rev. Chester Smith Lyman resides at New Haven, Ct., and is a professor in Yale College. Frederick Augustus Coe was a lawyer, and practised his profession in New York City, where he died Jan. 9, 1870, aged fifty-three. Boston, U.S. JOHN WARD DEAN. DAVID LLOYD, LLWYNRHYDOWEN (5th S. i. 488.) -In addition to the particulars already known to T. C. U., this eminent Presbyterian (or, more properly speaking, Unitarian) minister appears to have been educated at the Carmarthen College. He founded nearly all the Arian congregations in Cardiganshire and parts of Carmarthenshire, was a man of sound learning, enlightened political ideas, and considerable ability as a poet. I have now before me a copy of some of his poetical works, printed at Carmarthen in 1785, being about seven years after his death. The poems are, of course, in Welsh. He is said to have been thirty-six years in the ministry when he died. R. W. "HUDIBRAS" (5th S. i. 489.)-The astrologer satirized under the name of Sidrophel, in Butler's Hudibras, is generally believed to have been the notorious William Lilly, "Who dealt in Destiny's dark counsels" in the seventeenth century. Charles II. is said to have consulted Lilly in his capacity of astrologer on one occasion. W. A. C. Glasgow. REGISTER OF JEWS (5th S. i. 489.) - The following extract from R. Sims's Manual for the Genealogist, &c., p. 428, London, 1856, states what is known of the Jews' Registers : "From the year 1663 the registers of births, marriages, and deaths of the Jews have been correctly made, and carefully preserved; the birth is entered at their cere monial on the eighth day; and all the entries are more minute than those of the Christian Church. "The Committees of the great Synagogues in Bevis Marks and Duke's Place, Aldgate, when applied to by the Commissioners appointed to inquire into the state of Registers of Births, &c., in 1838, declined to part with their registers, which are kept in the Hebrew language, on the ground that they are continually required for civil as well as religious purposes." As Jews after the Act of 1753 were able to marry in their chapels, their marriages are more numerous than in the case of others. J. S. Burns (Hist. of Par. Regist., p. 224, London, 1862) says: "The following is a specimen of the entry of birth, at the Hamburgh Synagogue, in Church Row, Fenchurch Street:-Julia, the daughter of Jonas Levy and Matilda Levy, his wife, of Bevis Marks, Saint Mary Axe, was born on Wednesday, the 23d August, 1826.'"-Ibid. p. 242. This refers to the period before the passing of the Registration Act. ED. MARSHALL. HERALDIC (5th S. i. 489.) - Ermine, on a chief indented azure, 3 fleurs de lis argent, are given by Camden, in his Visitation of Huntingdonshire (Camden Society, 1848), as the arms of Ap Rhese, Ap Rece, or Aprece. Alpress, whose arms MR. JAY inquires for, will most likely be another variation of the same name. playhouse," one of them being, "the boxes or rooms of private theatres were inclosed and locked." It was from this, in all probability, that the name was derived. The Blackfriars, the Cockpit in Drury Lane, and the theatre in Salisbury Court were private; the Globe, Fortune, and Bull were public theatres. CHARLES WYLIE. BUDA (5th S. i. 287, 374, 417, 458; ii. 16.) - Your correspondent W. B. C. is undoubtedly right in saying that it is Buda which bears the name of Ofen, though strangely enough the Slavonic Pesth (pronounced Pe-ht), with the same signification as Ofen in German, is applied to the other half of the town. The name probably arose from the oven-like situation of Buda. Buda is a Slavonic word, and forms part of the name of mary villages in Bohemia. Its meaning in Tchekh, I believe, is dwelling-place, habitation; it is probably connected with the English bide, abode. ASHTON W. DILKE. W. B. C. is right in his correction. It is Buda which is known in German by the name of Ofen, although the latter term is properly a translation of the name of Pesth, which in Old Hungarian (like the Old Slavonic poshtch) signified a stove. I was led into the blunder by a hasty reading of my Hungarian Dictionary (Farkas), in which I found "Pest, Pesth (Stadt); Ofen (veraltet)," and understood the sentence as signifying that the name of Ofen was now obsolete, whereas the meaning really is that the Hungarian pest, in the sense of stove, is obsolete. The puzzle is how the German translation of the name Pesth could ever come to designate the city (Buda) on the opposite H. W. side of the river. "SELE" (5th S. i. 228, 276, 318.) -It would appear evident that sele is not the same in meaning, if it be the same in origin, which is doubtful, with selio, or selion, which, in English, is called a stitche, or ridge of land, and which Spelman, followed by Blount and Cowell, says was "agri portio sulcos aliquot non certos continens"; and also that it was called "à Gall. seillon, i. terra elata inter duos sulcos (v. selio) " facts these which are otherwise well established. Therefore, although MR. DOBSON seems to reject the sele of Prof. H. Leo, of Halle (p. 54), I incline to receive it as the most probable root of the place-name "le scele," or "le sele," and now "seal," occurring in Grants of Land to Hexham. He would limit the signification of this term to a dwelling exclusively, in the belief that Prof. Leo had done the like, which, however, he has not done; and in this way has arisen what I presume is MR. DOBSON's misconception. Leo says that the ancient form of sele was sal, the primitive meaning of which must have been thus general; for this reason, as he says, that "we have saljan in Gothic meaning manere, divertere," which is "no primitive word," but, as he adds, is "indisputably derived from the same root," viz. sal. Then no one has doubted that manere (the inf. of maneo) is the root of mansus, the meaning of which the learned Spelman says is "habitatio vel sedes rustica, non ædes tantum complectens, sed terras etiam ad alendam familiam idoneas" (Gl. v. "Mansia, et Mansus"); who also (v. "Mansi, sellas") cites an "Adnuntiatio" of King Carolus, apud Pistas, cap. 30, where the "hæreditates colonorum" are called mansa, and the sellas the "domicilia mansorum" (colonorum hereditates mansa vocat, domicilia mansorum sellas), where also this prohibition is contained, "Separarique prohibet à sellis mansa, ne divenditis terris confundantur mansa, subducantur servitia, et destruantur villæ "; and where this statement is added, "Retinuit hunc morem vetus Anglorum Economia usque ad Henrici 2, ætatem; ut è Garvasio liqueat Tilberiensi." Prof. Leo has said that "If sele be the dwelling of the wealthy, of landowners, cote, on the other hand, indicates the abode of the poorer class" (v. "Cote," p. 55); and if this be a well-founded distinction, sele may be just tantamount to our manor, unquestionably a derivative of manere, which is the interpretation of saljan. But Leo says, besides, that in the northern dialect sala has been distinguished from sel, the former meaning an "ædes, domus, aula"; and the latter a "tugurium æstivum," or summer hut of turf. Accordingly, there is a strong probability that sele = sal is the true root of all those place-names which, in Scotland, are called Shiels, or The Sheils (i.e., place of the huts), sheilings (L. scalinga), &c., as well as of the stells, or steils, and all of which are common, both single and compounded; e.g., The Sheils (le scele?), Lyand-scheiles, Cauld-shiels, Ashiesteil, Bar-coed-steils, Birket-steil, &c. L. ARITHMETIC: CASTING OUT NINES (5th S. i. 88, 332.) -Though "N. & Q." is hardly a medium for mathematical communications, yet, "the ball being set a-rolling," I will give it another shove. MR. MORTIMER COLLINS is perfectly correct in all he says, but there is no reason in the world, save economy, for restricting the operation to nines and elevens. The reason why, in casting out elevens, we take the difference between the sum of the odd |