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see me you know me.' And I can refer for says, “The natives call the Potto aposoro

} a third to Shirley's Triumph of Peace' and similarly in Cassell's Natural History, (Gifford's 'Shirley, vi. 280), 1633.

1896, vol. i. p. 243, it is stated, “The negroes H. C. HART. seemed to be much afraid of the Potto, which

they called aposo." I am driven to the conROBESPIERRE'S ARREST AND THE MOON.

clusion that either Bosman wrongly appreIn that interesting book “Robespierre and hended the word, or his printer misread his the Red Terror, by Dr. Jan ten Brink (trans- manuscript.

JAS. PLATT, Jun. lated from the Dutch by J. Hedeman), there FOXES AS FOOD FOR MEN.-On p. 5 of The is a picture of the scene outside the Hôtel de Standard, 8 September, and under the headVille on the night of 9 Thermidor (27 July; ing Parisian Topics,' it is stated :1794), the night that Robespierre was arrested by the National Convention. In this picture game in France and are poached as such, but

“I found out to-day that foxes are classed as a fuli moon is shown high in the sky. Now whether for their pelts or their flesh, or merely in I find by calculation that there was a new sport, I could not ascertain. But the poachers of moon op 27 July, 1794. The full moon shown the Seine et Marne district have a special way of in the picture had therefore no existence their own for getting Reynard out of his earth except in the mind of the artist, and this sport that I must conclude that in their case, at

which is so contrary to the elementary rules of shows how little reliance can be placed on least, the sporting instinct is absent. A rag soaked the accuracy of historical pictures.

in petroleum is tied to the tail of a live rat, and

J. ELLARD GORE. lighted just as the animal is thrust into a hole Dublin.

where a fox has been located. The tortured beast

rushes about until he comes to the fox's nest, which LAURENCE WASHINGTON'S DEATH. I have generally takes fire, sending its scared occupant out discovered at Dr. Plume's Library, Maldon, on trigger, and he never misses. I am curious to

into the open. There the poacher is waiting, finger Essex, in a certified copy of the parish re- know what punishment our hunting squires at home gisters, this entry, amongst the burials : “Mr would reserve for these individuals.” Laurence Washington 21 January 1653." I have been told that the flesh of the fox

This is a piece of information lacking in is used for food in some parts of Spain, and any of the literature which I have found on also that broth made of dogs' flesh is given the subject. There can be no doubt that to delicate children. MR. J. Platt, in his this is the entry of the burial of the erewhile recent letter on Vixens and Drunkenness' rector of Purleigh. His widow was buried at (10th S. iii. 437), has not proved that the Tring in the following year (19 Jan., 1654). Catalán for fox, guineu, cannot be a first R. T. Love, Rector of Purleigh. cousin to Castilian viñero, i.e., in a joking

E. S. DODGSON. “DRAPER":- OMISSION FROM THE ‘N.E.D.:- sense, a viner. The 'N.E.D. strangely omits the form “CATAMARAN."-In the latest book on the "drapier," which seems to have been the great Douglas cause the author tells us that spelling usual in the eighteenth century, the Duke of Douglas “had something wild

The form is immortalized in the title of and barbarous in his nature-something of Swift's work The Drapier's Letters.'

the old type of Highland chief or catamaran." ALEX. LEEPER.

Highland chiefs were never Madras surf boatTrinity College, University of Melbourne.

men, but even if the printer is responsible "Potto": ITS ETYMOLOGY.—It seems highly for the longer word, still caterans were never probable that this popular and well-known chiefs, nor was the Duke a Highlander. The name for an animal found both in the West sentence which follows is a gem of its kind : Indies and in Africa will turn out to be a for

the greater portion of his life."

“He was long unmarried, and remained so ghost-word." Our only authority for it

A. T. M. is Bosman, who was chief Dutch factor at Elmina, and made a memorable voyage

[Catamaran is applied to a cross-grained person. the Guinea coast in 1698. In his letters,

See 'N.E.D.' (3). We are familiar with its use in

this sense.] original Dutch edition of 1704, p. 32, hé speaks of " een beest, 'tgeen by de negers

WELSH MUTATIONS. Mr. Charles G. naem van potto draegt. This is the source Harper, in his delightful The Oxford, of the modern usage of the ternu by naturalists, Gloucester, and Milford Road,” makes but I find no trace of it in any dictionary of curious slip, apparently owing to his ignothe Gold Coast tongues. On the other hand, rance of the law of mutation of the initial Mr. Skues, in his account of an independent consonant in Welsh, whereby c becomes g, investigation (Proc. Zool. Soc., 1869, p. 2), and sometimes ch or ng. Speaking of Dafydd



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Gam, thought to be the prototype of Shake- famous. Is it possible that Derbyshire has speare's Fluellen, he rightly states that nobody but Samuel Richardson and Herbert Dafydd Gam was a nickname meaning Spencer, and that Archbishop Cranmer is the “David the crooked,” but he adds, “I do only illustrious man who may be claimed not find the word gam in a modern Welsh by Nottinghamshire ? Macaulay represents dictionary, but it is often heard in Shrop- Leicester, and Drayton Northamptonshire. shire and on the borders to-day, where a Huntingdonshire took many centuries to lame person is said to have a 'gammy leg."" produce that really great man Oliver CromOf course he should have looked under cam well, and having produced him was so exfor the word, when he would have had no hausted that she has achieved nothing since difficulty in finding it.

D. M. R.

but mediocrity in genius. Rutland is still [Gammy is in the 'N.E.D. as dialectal and hatching her swan. Apparently, many of slang.)

the southern counties have been very richly JEHAN OSTERMAYER.-Dr. Naylor in his Gordon Colborne is aware of. I leave their

dowered, and probably more so than Mr. ‘An Elizabethan Virginal Book' (London, case to somebody who is better versed in

' 1905) prints a galliard by," Jehan Oyster their history than I can claim to be, and mayre (sixteenth century),” and gives in a offer, above, sufficient matter for discussion. foot-note, "for what it is worth, a state

St. SWITHIN. ment about a musician of the same name (but the Christian name_Jerome) from the ‘Allgemeine Deutsche Biographie.' He should have consulted Robert Eitner's Bio

Queries. graphisch-Bibliographisches Lexikon' in the

We must request correspondents desiring inReference Library, of the British Museum, formation on family matters of only private interest wherein he could have found some informa- to affix their names and addresses to their queries, tion about Jehan and Jerome Ostermayer, in order that answers may be sent to them direct. and one or two musicians of the same name.


-I am anxious to trace the author alluded to

in the following passage from Lord Charles ROBINSON CRUSOE, 1619. In this year Somerset's proclamation (issued in 1818) Daniel Robinson was admitted into Gonville establishing the Public Library, at Cape and Caius College, Cambridge, and his surety Town, and declaring the design of the library was Mr. Cruso (* Admissions,' by J. and to he S. C. Venn, 1887, p. 141).

W. C. B.

to lay the foundation of a system which shall GENIUS BY COUNTIES.' – An article so place the means of knowledge within the reach of entitled appeared in The Strand Magazine bring within their reach what the most eloquent

the youth of this remote corner of the globe, and for August. Genius was attributed to men of ancient writers has considered to be one of of energy and distinction, as well as to the first blessings of life-Home Education.” those possessed of the intangible gift which shows itself independently of physical con

The only passage of an ancient writer which dition or of the favour of fortune. The author occurs to me as referred to here is Pliny the was content with Yorkshire, which he credited where they are born, and should accustom

“ Children should be brought up

Younger's with Lord Lawrence, Wilberforce, Capt. Cook, themselves from earliest infancy to love their Bentley, Lord Leighton, Flaxman, Charlotte native soil and make it their home.” But is Brontë, and Smeaton. In Lincolnshire he Pliny the Younger ever described elsewhere recognized Lord Burleigh, Algernon Sidney, as the most eloquent of ancient writers ? Isaac Newton, John Wesley, and Lord Tenny. Any references to such description or to other son. I cannot but think that he has materially underrated the output of illustrious men and

passages will be much appreciated.

B. L. DYER. women from both of these vigorous shires,

Public Library, Kinberley, S.A. and I should like to know if there be readers of ‘N. & Q.' who share my opinion. Many TOUCHING FOR THE KING's Evil.-I am Yorkshire names occur to me which ought to anxious, before publication, to make as combe added to such a list, and I feel that there plete as possible a collection of records of must be some of Lincolnshire quite worthy this ancient practice, and shall be much to appendix the five which Mr. Gordon Col. obliged to any of your correspondents who borne has brought together, though he has will be good enough to furnish me with probably picked out those which are most extracts upon the subject from parish regis


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ters or other unprinted documents. Please Hudson Bay. Mrs. McPike's maternal grandforward direct. GEORGE C. FEACHEY. uncle, the late Mr. Isaac Brabb[s], who died Royal Societies' Club, St. James's Street, S.W. in Romeo in 1875, married, circa 1817, one

Hannah Hudson, the puptial ceremony proAPPLEBY MAGNA GRAMMAR SCHOOL. - I bably being performed in North Cave or one desire information relating to the Appleby of the neighbouring towns in Yorkshire. Grammar School, Appleby Magna, Ather- There is a family tradition that this stone, Leicestershire, especially the names of Hannah Hudson was descended from the scholars between 1833 and 1845, when my celebrated navigator. The name and address late father was head master. One pupil of of a local Yorkshire antiquary would be his was Cosmo Holbech; there were also two appreciated. brothers Baker, a Needham, and, I think, an

EUGENE FAIRFIELD MCPIKE. Ambrose Cave, and, of course, many others. 1, Park Row, Chicago, U.S. I shall be pleased if any survivor will communicate with me.

“PUDDING."-In Banks's Labrador and The school dates from the time of Wil- Newfoundland Journal! a strange kind of liam III., and was founded by Sir John pudding” is mentioned as being alwaysfound Moore, Bart., whose statue stands in the in the huts of the Indians. It was composed schoolroom. C. STRICKLAND MACKIE. “of eggs and deer's hair, to make it hang The Croft, Rye, Sussex.

together, as we put hair into our mortar


and baked in the sun. Our people [z.e., the The Pound, ROCHESTER Row. – At the fishermen] believe it to be part of their food,

junction of Rochester Row, Greycoat Place, but do not seem certain whether it is in. and Old Rochester Row, now incorporated tended for that or any other use."

I shall with the previous thoroughfare under that be grateful to any reader of ‘N. & Q? who Dame, the Pound formerly stood. I shall be can suggest an explanation. pleased to receive information as to where I

HENRY SCAERREK. can see a picture of it if one should be in existence, and also to hear if there is any known to have been used by Cromwell are

CROMWELL SWORDS.-How many swords likelihood that one can be purchased. EDWARD TANSLEY.

in existence? His Naseby sword is, I believe, Warwick Street, South Belgravia.

preserved at Dinton Hall, co. Buckingham;

that used at Marston Moor is at Chequers LONDON PAROCHIAL History. May I be Court; and the one he wielded at the siege of permitted to state that I am endeavouring Drogheda may be seen at the United Service to compile a history of the two (now united) Museum. City parishes of SS. Anne and Agnes, and On looking through 'N. & Q.' I find referSt. John Zachary, and that I shall be ex- ences to Cromwell swords at 7th S. viii. 507; tremely obliged to any reader of 'N. & Q.' who ix. 52, 151; x. 407; gth S. x. 508. will be kind enough to put me on the track

John T. PAGE. of any out-of-tho-way references to either West Haddon, Northamptonshire. of these parishes ? I may mention that the former parish is often referred to in records

NUMISMATIC.-Can any reader of ‘N. &Q.' prior to the sixteenth century as “S. Agnes

recommend a cheap and simple guide to parish, and afterwards (for some three cen- lection, owned by a friend.

coins? It is wanted for a small private col

FRANCESCA. turies or so) as “St. Anne's, Aldersgate.”


SHAW, A BENGAL LAWYER. 6, Clovelly Road, S. Ealing, W.

epistle of my great-grandfather, the Rev. G. HENRY Palmer, of Wanlip, who died 1773, Scotland, this reference is made to his sister

Cupples (1727-98), minister of Swinton, in married Elizabeth Borrett, of Shoreham in-law and her son :Castle, Kent. Whose daughter was she? She does not appear in the pedigree of house, then 100, Gerrard Street, Soho, when I was

“I was almost once every day in Mrs. Sham's Borrett of Shoreham in Hasted.

in London iu 1769. Mrs. Shaw is now a widow ALLANBANK.

from India, where her son is one of the greatest HENRY HUDSON'S DESCENDANTS. — Writ

lawyers and richest men in Bengal.” ing now from Rodeo, near the city of

Now who was Mrs. Shaw's son?

J. G. CUPPLES Detroit, in Michigan, I have to make some

Boston, U.S. inquiries regarding the possible existence in Yorkshire, circa 1800-25, of descendants of Henry Hudson, the famous discoverer of land and Westmorland Antiquarian Society


In a 1797


visited this ruin on 14 September. The will be found on p. 46 of the voluine above information vouchsafed about it by the Rev. cited :Ernest J. Frost, vicar of Bowes, was by po “John Danister, priest, is deserving of first men

exhaustive. Can any Yorkshire tion, in that he is almost the only confessor among antiquary direct me to a proper account of those who managed to flee the realm : for, while he it, which surely must exist, with a plan of was waiting to cross the sen, he was apprehended

and thrown into the meanest of prisons. To the the site, and also particulars of the excava

same prison, at about the same time, came another tion of the adjacent Roman station of priest, who by the influence of friends had obtained Lavatræ ? The like information as to the an order for his release. The governor of the prison, Roman camp adjoining the “ Morritt Arms” mistaking the identity of his prisoners, gave Hotel at Greta Bridge would be interesting. Danister an opportunity to escape, which his Are any good photographs obtainable of the honesty

forbade him to utilize. He indicated the Roman altars to be seen at Rokeby? It proper person to be set free, and the governor, in

adıniration of his straightforwardness, worried the is a great pity they are not placed in the Council into liberating Danister also. Our hero Tullie House Museum at Carlisle (several was educated in boyhood at Winchester, and in were found at Naworth), or some other safer youth at Oxford. Everywhere he has surpassed depository than they are in at present, in everything appertaining to poetry; as a youth,

his contemporaries : as a boy, in writing verses and exposed to damage alike from the climate in rhetoric and civil law; and, finally, as a young and mischievous persons.

man, in theology, as he has recently shown at T. CANN HUGHES, M.A., F.S.A. Louvain, where his preaching last Lent won uni. Lancaster.

versal applause. Already, too, his fixed habit of

seriousness has earned for him the nickname of MOON NAMES.-Can any of your readers Cato.” furnish information on the names of the This account suggests intimate personal different moons? The following are, I be knowledge of the subject, and as Dr. Sander lieve, correct: 1. September, Harvest Moon; himself was educated at Winchester and 2. October, Apple Moon ; 3. November, Hun- Oxford, it is most improbable that John ter's Moon. Have the remaining nine any Danister is a character of fiction. Neverparticular names ?

VALTYNE. theless his name does not occur either in (March seenis likely to be known, from Tennyson, Kirby's Winchester Scholars' or in Foster's as the “roaring moon of daffodil."]

Alumni Oxonienses.' The Rev. Henry Gee, “FOUNTAIN" TAVERN. When was this

B.D., in his ‘Elizabethan Clergy,' has been tavern built ? and what was the exact loca unable to identify him in any way; and in tion in the Strand? Was Simpson's tavern, The Marian Reaction,' by the Rev. W. H. lately demolished, originally the “Fountain

Frere, his name is to be sought in vain. It of Jacobite times? Is there a picture of the seems to me probable that he had another tavern extant ? and, if so, where may it be name, as so many persons had at that time, found?


e.J., the Richard Clare alias Dominick men

tioned by Mr. Gee (op. cit., p. 255); John ROUSE DAVYE.-Can any correspondent of Devon alias Cox, imprisoned in the Mar‘N. & Q.' kindly give me particulars of the shalsea, 15 April, 1561 (P.R.O., 'S. P. Dom. ancestry or descendants of a Rouse Davye or Eliz.,' xviii. 2); and Bishop Turberville, who Davis, of Kilmainham, co. Dublin, gent., frequently appears as Troblefield. Can any whose will was proved in the Prerogative one help me to identify “ John Danister”? Court, Ireland, c. 1672? His wife was named


FERMOR.-Can any one give me the name JOHN DANISTER, WYKEHAMIST. - Dr. of the wife of Sir John Fermor (temp. Nicholas Sander's report to Cardinal Moroni, Henry VIII.)? His daughter Catherine which, though unduted, is by internal evi married Henry D'Arcy, a grandson of Thomas, dence clearly to be assigned to the middle of first Lord D'Arcy, who was beheaded on 1561, has at last been printed in the first Tower Hill, 1538. KATHLEEN WARD. volume of the Catholic Record Society's publications (pp. 1-23). Under the heading Westminster School 24 September, 1778, and

GIFFARD.-John Giffard was admitted to *Quid ii ob fidem passi sunt qui ad episco: James Giffard 3 July, 1783. Particulars of patus nominabantur," he gives an account of six worthies, only one of whom, Maurice their parentage and career are desired.

G. F. R. B. Clenock, was in point of fact a bishopnominate at Queen Mary's death, and first HARDING FAMILY. - Several members of in the list comes John Danister. I translate this family were engaged in paper-making in the passage myself, but another translation the south-west corner of Surrey in the eigh

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teenth and early nineteenth century, Oxford.-New College. anything known of the antecedents of this Somerset. - Westbury-on-Severn. branch of the Hardings? HARDINGCOURT. Suffolk. - Beccles. Bramfield. East Berg


Surrey.-All Saints', Lambeth.
General Simcoe, of Wolford, near Honiton, Sussex.-The Cathedral, Chichester.
was sent by the British Government to St. Warwick.-Lapworth.
Domingo in March, 1797, as commander of

Worcester.-Evesham. the forces. What ship-man-of-war presum- Ireland.-Baltinglass. ably-did he sail in ? He returned in August,

EVERARD HOME COLEMAN. 1797. What ship did he return in ?


Detached belfries were once very common.

St. Paul's had one, and Westminster Abbey SHERIFF'S CHALLENGE IN DOMESDAY:-When had one ; and the remains of the “Five Bell the sheriff challenged a manor "for the Tower" on the north side of the choir of king's ferm," what was the nature of his Rochester are still to be seen. claim? Was it a sufficient answer that St. Edmund's Abbey had two, one of which Elgar, Earl of Mercia, had held the manor ?

is used for St. James's Church, and a similar A. T. M.

tower at the west end of St. Margaret's OXFORD MATRICULATIONS. Can any of Church, for which it was used as a campanile. your readers refer me to a work of recent This is shown in a plan in the East Anglian date containing the names of those students Magazine, published at Lowestoft thirty years who have matriculated at Oxford, with par. ago. ticulars of their parentage, public school, I suppose the old tower at Hackney is still &c., after the plan of the late Joseph Foster's in existence, though the bells have long since ' Alumni Oxonienses 'and 'Oxford Men, 1880-been removed to the west tower of the modern 1892?? Has any work appeared since the church. latter publication? I am unable to trace The Salisbury tower was restored by Wren, such at the British Museum.

but never used, and was taken down by order

J. A. NORRIS. of the Prince Regent. The site was shut off 2, Kensington Park Gardens, S.E.

by an iron balustrade from the rest of the Close, and has since been called “the Dead

Sea." The tower was so much lower than the Beplies.

clerestory of the cathedral that the bells were

quite inaudible on the other side. I think DETACHED BELFRIES.

this was the real reason for removing it. (10th S. iv. 207.)

WALTER SCARGILL. This question has frequently appeared in

Colchester. •N. & Q.' the first time even as far back as In the History of Bosbury,' by the Rev. 1853. For MR. RANDOLPH's benefit I have Samuel Bentley, it is mentioned (p. 17) that compiled the following list from the replies. in Herefordshire there are seven churches

Bedford. - Woburn. Elstow. Marston- with detached towers, viz., at Bosbury, GarMorteyn.

way, Holmer, Ledbury, Pembridge, Yarpole, Berks.—Theale.

and Richard's Castle. Cambridge.—Tid St. Giles.

“They are generally supposed to have been built Cheshire.-St. John's, Chester. Congleton. for defensive purposes, as predatory excursions Cornwall.-Mylor. Launceston. Gwennap. were frequently made by the Welsh into HerefordCumberland.- Kirkoswald.

shire, both before and after the period of their Denbigh.-Henllan.

erection." Devon.—Chittlehampton.

R. B. Essex.— Wix. Wrabness.

I have notes of the following instances of Glamorgan.-Llangyfelach,

detached church towers.

Whether every Gloucs.-Berkeley. Westbury.

tower contains a belfry or not I am unable Hereford.

-Ledbury. Pembridge. Bosbury. to say :Holmer. Richard's Castle. Yarpole.

Warmsworth, Yorkshire. Kent. -Brookland.

West Walton and Little Shoring, Norfolk, Lincoln.-Fleet. Flixbrough.

Ormskirk, Lancashire. Middlesex.–St. George's, Tufnell Park, N. Hackney, Middlesex.

Norfolk. Walton. Terrington. West Tydd St. Giles, Cambridge. Walton. East Dereham.

Irthlingborough, Northamptonshire. Northumberland.-Morpeth.

Sutton St. Mary, Lincolnshire.


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