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into two sections. The second section con- in fiction who used the methods made most tains some delicately elaborated description familiar to us by Sherlock Holmes? Is there of outward nature. To the beauty of the any earlier one than Zadig? passage, one can fancy, there is given an

RUDOLPH DE CORDOVA. added charm from its having passed under the editorial consideration of Lamb.


' The passage referred to begins : "I imagine History of Dorset' (i. 48) is a lengthy epitaph

: I you seized with a fine, romantic kind of to Peter Joliffe, “a distinguished naval officer," a melancholy on the fading of the year," &c. who died 12 November, 1730, aged seventy

two. For the complete letter the curious may con.

His youngest son, William Joliffe,

alderman and merchant of Poole," was sult the Aldine edition of Thomson's Works,' mayor of that borough in 1754 and 1758 1860, pp. xxvi-xxviii. Similar descriptive passages adorn Thomson's correspondence ; should be glad to learn the parentage of Peter

dying 7 August, 1762, aged sixty-four. I but there is no better example among them of his real power of expressing himself in

Joliffe. Early in the seventeenth century a picturesque prose.

family of the name was seated at Cannings The history of the letter, so far as it has Court, in Dorset, and entered their pedigree been ascertained, is briefly this. According I can discover no later particulars of the

in the Visitation of that county, 1623 ; but to Mr. Peter Cunningham, who edited Sir

descent. A William Joliffe was M.P. for Harris Nicolas's biograpby for the Aldine edition of Thomson, it was first printed

Poole in 1698, and uld be, I suspect, of the in The London Magazine for November, 1824, There was, I believe, no connexion between

same family, possibly the father of Peter. headed with this note :

the Joliffes of Dorset and those of StaffordThe following very interesting letter has been shire, represented now by Lord Hylton. recovered from oblivion, or at least from neglect, by our friend Elia, and the public will no doubt

W. D. PINK. thank him for the deed. It is without date or

Lowton, Newton-le-Willows. superscription in the manuscript, which (as our contributor declares) was in so 'fragmentitious' a

PRINCIPAL GILBERT GRAY.-Gilbert Gray state as to perplex his transcribing faculties in the was the second principal of Marischal extreme.”

College, Aberdeen. His 'Oratio de illustribus Internal evidence altogether favours the Scotiæ Scriptoribus' was reprinted in 1708 by authenticity of the letter. The nok excursus Mackenzie ( Live Scots Writers,' I. xxi.). itself is characteristically Thomson's. But, It is stated by Prof. William Knight (MS. apart from this matter, the conjunction thus Collections, circa 1840) to have been originally evidenced of two geniuses of intrinsic quali- printed at Aberdeen by Raban in 1623, but ties so different is peculiarly memorable. no copy of that print has been traced. I

W. B. should be glad to hear of the existence of a

copy. It must not be confused with Gray's Queries,

'Oratio Funebris in memoriam Duncani

Liddelii, printed at Edinburgh by Andro WE must request correspondents desiring in- Hart in 1614-not included, by the way, in formation on family matters of only private interest Mr. H. G. Aldis's 'List of Books printed in to affix their names and addresses to their queries, Scotland before 1700. in order that answers may be sent to them direct.


CROMWELL DEATH.-Is anything known of CANNING'S RIMING DISPATCH. I want the family of Cromwell Death, of Furnival's to know where any versions of “In matters Inn, living in the early years of the reign of of commerce the fault of the Dutch," &c., Charles II. ?

OXONIENSIS. appeared in print before 1846. Bell in that year gives a version. This is the earliest I PRISONER SUCKLED BY HIS DAUGHTER.-I have found. I have looked, I think, at all shall be glad to know the name of the artist, the books on Canning:

Was it quoted and the title, and where the original is deposited, printed in speeches before this?

of the picture representing a prisoner (who, HARRY B. POLAND. although deprived of food, to the astonishInner Temple.

ment of the authorities, continues to exist) (Readers may like to refer to SIR HARRY POLAND's drawing milk from the breast of his daughter, article at 9th S. x. 270, and also to 4th S. i. 438 and who visits him with her child. J. SMITH. the other references there given.]

“ PEARLS CANNOT EQUAL THE WHITENESS DETECTIVES IN FICTION.-Can any reader OF HIS TEETH."—What is the source of an help me with early references to detectives apocryphal legend of Jesus which represents


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Him as making this remark about the dead ber, 1764." There is a long quaint epitaph, dog which every one else spurned? The which I did not copy, as it has, no doubt, moral, of course, is that we should strive to already been published. Who was T. Undersee the best, and not the worst of everything. wood ?


WEDDING INVITATION-CARDS. I have come “ROLLUPS." The breadth of his milk- across a printed invitation to the wedding of and-watered rollups,” in a letter from Mason Johann Heinrich Hansing, of Hanover, and to Gray, 27 June, 1755, Tovey's edition. Sophie Magdalene, daughter of Ilsa MagdaWhat are they?


lene Starren, widow of Prebling, of Hayen. MACDONALD OF MOIDART.

It is a single folio page, dated 1684. Are any

In Wood's earlier printed invitations known? ‘Douglas's Peerage' (vol. ii. p. 8) Reginald is

LUDWIG ROSENTHAL, mentioned as second son of John de Yle,

Hildegardstrasse 16, Munich. Lord of the Isles, but in such a way as to suggest that he was not the son of John's JOANE GROSVENOR OR GRAVENOR. - I wife Margaret Stuart, and rather leading to should be grateful to any of your correthe inference that he was illegitimate. Can spondents, experts in the history of our any one give me further information ? ancient English families, for any information

A. CALDER. respecting a lady of this name, who appears ANDERSON DANCE.—I shall be pleased to to have been a member of that branch of know when this dance was first introduced, the Grosvenors known as the Bushbury and why it was so called. It was common

Grosvenors. Not a few of this house bore in the North a hundred years ago. Any Gravenor appears to have been of a literary

this same name. This Joane Grosvenor or particulars will oblige. CHAS. HALL CROUCH.

turn of mind

-at any rate, a student of 5, Grove Villas, Wanstead.

homiletic literature. In an old book of

sermons preached by that celebrated silverLIVERPOOL UNIVERSITY : INSTITUTE OF tongued" Henry Smith, D.D., lecturer at ARCHÆOLOGY.-Has any official report been St. Clement Danes, under her signature, by issued of the opening of this on 3 December, way of comment on a sermon by the learned 1904, or of the papers on Egyptology read divine on the humiliation of Nebuchadnezzar, by Mr. Percy Newberry?

are written the following lines :T. CANN HUGHES, M.A., F.S.A.

Laugh at no man's fall. Lancaster.

Thy state is yet unsure.

Thou knowest nothing at all CHARLES CHURCHILL: T. UNDERWOOD.

How long thou may'st endure. According to the D.N.B.,' when Charles Commenting on another sermon on ConChurchill died at Boulogne, his body was tentment are these lines :brought over to Dover, and buried in the old

Hell gapes, and that most readily, churchyard of St. Martin, and a monument To swallow then up full greedily, was also erected to him in the church. Mr.

Who liveth upon their usury, S. P. H. Statham also states (History of

Which bringeth men to poverty. Dover,' 1899) that the poet was buried in This lady was evidently living in the early St. Martin's-16-Grand, but the local guide- part of the seventeenth century. The spelibooks tell us that this church was wholly ing is of the Jacobean period.

Silverdismantled in 1542. Has anybody seen re- tongued” Smith died circa 1601. J. W. B. cently the monument or the grave, whichso the 'D.N.B.' informs us-is marked by a

HONESTY ON A COMPETENCE.--I should be slab and a line taken from the poet's Candi obliged if you could give me the reference date'? Byron visited it when leaving Eng. for the subjoined quotation :land for the last time, and has recorded his

"Strive to have a competence, however modest,

for without it a man cannot......[?] Nay, he can impressions in lines dated Diodati, 1816.

hardly even be honest." On a recent occasion I had a few minutes I believe it is in a letter of Edmund Burke's, to spare at Dover, and went into St. Mary's but I have not any copy of his letters, and Church in Cannon Street, where I saw a in an edition of his speeches and writings to mural tablet erected “at the sole , expense which I referred, I could not find it. of T. Underwood, ye Impartialist," to the

D. E. memory of the "late celebrated poet Charles Churchill who died at Boulogne in France CARAVANSERAI TO PUBLIC-HOUSE.—Where ætatis 32 and was buried in ye town Novem- may I find references and original matter

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which would be helpful to me in working up the subject of the evolution of hostels, inns,

Beplies. and hotels ? GREGORY GRUSELIER.

VIRGIL OR VERGIL? HEADLY ARMS.-I am anxious to find the

(10th S. iv. 248.) coat of arms of the following crest: A martlet The right answer is that Vergilius is the ona mound. Motto, "Spessomnium vigilantis.” Latin form, and Virgil the English one. The seal was the property of my great- Lewis and Short's 'Latin Dictionary' has :grandfather, Robert Headly, of Cambridge, “ Vergilius, not lius; the former is supson of William Headly. If you or your ported by the ancient MSS. and inscriptions in correspondents can give me any information unbroken succession to the fourth century A.D. on this point, I shall be greatly obliged. The same dictionary has :

C. B. HEADLY. “Hence Vergilianus, of or belonging to the poet Alexandra Road, Leicester.

Vergil, Vergilian.” MUNGO.A writer in The Monthly Jagazine made the mistake of copying the above error,

I have to confess that I have frequently for March, 1798 (p. 184), observing that one and have frequently printed the English fifth of the population of New York is supposed to consist of negroes and people of name as Vergil ; but I have since perceived colour, deplores the vicious intercourse be that it is wrong, and I beg leave to recant. tween whites and blacks, and suggests that

Not only is Vergil “hyperpedantic," but

We encouragement be given to poor Irish and it is formed on a wrong principle. Scotch emigrants in order totally to do should always go back to first principles,

,“ away the mungo and tawney breeds," for

the town and suburbs swarm with both.” English spelling is mostly very antique, and Was St. Kentigern's alias a common appella

was regulated by Anglo-French scribes upon tive of negroes? Or is this use of the term Anglo-French principles. The modern English merely a reminiscence of Mungo, the black spelling is properly Virgil, because the Middle slave ip Bickerstaff's 'Padlock (1768) ?

English spelling was Virgile, Virgyle, or J. DORMER.

Virgil. My 'Index of Proper Names' to

Chaucer gives the following references, which EDWARD VAUGHAN. - Can any of your see: 'House of Fame,' 11.378, 449, 1483 readers put me in communication with a "Troilus, V. 1792 ;" * Legend of Good

Women, descendant or relative of the Rev. E. Vaughan, 924, 1002; Canterbury Tales,' Group D, Archdeacon of Madras from 1819 to 1828 ? I 1519. Gawain Douglas and Phaer wrote shall be deeply grateful for the favour. Virgill; Stanyhurst and Dryden have Virgil. FRANK PENNY.

WALTER W. SKEAT. 3, Park Hill, Ealing, W.

As regards the Latin form of the name "LES MISÉRABLES': ITS TOPOGRAPHY,- there is no question that the e is right. The Partie ii., Cosette'; livre v. chap. i., 'Les best MSS. read Vergilium in the concluding Zigzags de la Stratégie' p. 200 (édition lines of the fourth book of the Georgics, Hetzel), escape of Jean Valjean. Are the and this spelling is further attested by inscrippresent Rues Lhomond and Tournefort tions in which the name occurs. But I respectively the Rues des Postes and think it would be pedantic, in spite of the Neuve St. Geneviève of the narrative (1823)? inconsistency, to depart from the familiar So it would seem from a plan of Paris for English form Virgil in favour of Vergil, 1827. But the author speaks of the two though this, I admit, may be a matter of streets as running from un carrefour où individual taste.

C. S. JERRAM. est aujourd'hui le Collège Rollin"; but this college is not there now, and the district

The inscriptions of the Republic and of the police inspector does not know it (the Rue favour of Vergilius ; so also the older MSS.,

first centuries of the Christian era are in Rollin is further north towards the Rue Monge, and does not fit the narrative)..Is, almost invariably Bepyílcos. This explana

as the Medicean, and the Greeks also link perchance, the College the present Institut tion is taken from Teuffel, vol. i. p. 425, Agronomique hard by? Then what are the

Warr's translation. present names of the Rues de Pontoise, Copeau, du Battoir St. Victor, and Petit

I fancy that the spelling Virgil arose from Banquier ? or have these streets of 1820-30 from a Virgo.

a legend which represented the poet as born vanished as such? The other streets, &c.,

H. A. STRONG. of the narrative are found easily.

If by “the more correct spelling” we mean H. H. B. that which, so far as can now be judged




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resembled the spelling used by Virgil and John Howes and Mr. Lemprière may there his contemporaries, it seems to me, in opposi- fore be considered as probably the best postion to Mr. McGOVERN, that the preponder sible authorities on the question raised by ance of opinion clearly favours Vergil. See your correspondent, and I find that in the Sellar's 'Roman Poets of the Augustan Age: MS. the charity, is invariably referred to Virgil, ch. iii. sect. ii.; sect. 40 of the Life (except in the single instance given above) and Writings of Virgil'in Kennedy's edition as "Chrysts Hospitall” or “Chrystes Hos

, of Virgil; and Ribbeck's one-volume edition pitall," and in the introduction and notes it of Virgil, p. viii, note 1. Nevertheless, Sellar is as invariably called “Christ's Hospital.” and Kennedy, while holding that Vergilius is It seems probable, therefore, that Leigh Hunt right in Latin, think that there is no reason was wrong.

ALAN STEWART. for giving up Virgil in English. KENHEW.

As one of those who are criticized for Vergilius is, apparently, the proper spelling writing “Christ's," not "Christ” Hospital, ,

, of the poet's own day. In modern English I hasten to reply that I used that form Virgil is decidedly more usual than Vergil, advisedly, because there is excellent reason and, if usage makes correctness, may be for considering it to be correct. I am aware called more correct. Some of those who are that Leigh Hunt and the late Henry Sam. alive to the true Latin spelling are inclined brooke Leigh omitted the genitive. On the to use the e in the English word also. Per other hand, the manuscript of John Howes, haps this is “hyperpedantic.” But it is not 1582, is addressed to “The Righte Worprfull hyperpedantic to protest when Horace's well- Mr Norton Mr Awdeleye & Mr Banckes

His known (and well-worn) words appear as sub Treasurer. & Governors of Chryste judice adhuc lis est. EDWARD BENSLY.

Hospitall," &c. John Stow, in his Survey Aldeburgh-on-Sea.

of London, 1598, speaks of “Christ's

' Hospital"; so do Howell (copying, no doubt,

from Stow) in his 'Londinopolis, 1657, and “CHRIST'S HOSPITAL” (10th S. iv. 247).— Hatton in his New View of London,' 1708. While search was being made among the I should add, perhaps, that the manuscript by archives of Christ's Hospital in 1888 for John Howes has lately been reproduced in evidence in support of the Hospital's case facsimile for private circulation at the ex. before the Judicial Committee of the Privy pense of Mr. Septimus Vaughan Morgan, Council, a MS. written in 1582 by John with an introduction and notes by Mr. Howes, which had been mislaid and forgotten William Lem prière, the text being printed on for at least two centuries, was discovered.

an opposite page. It relates to The Three It is a beautiful specimen of calligraphy, Royal Hospitals of Christ, Bridewell and bound in white vellum, and in perfect pre- St Thomas the Apostle." Howes was the servation. It has lately been reproduced in father of Edmund Howes, who continued facsimile at the charges of Mr. Septimus Stow's "Annales. Among moderns, Charles Vaughan Morgan, of the present Lamb, with his Recollections of Christ's governors, with an introduction and notes Hospital' and 'Christ's Hospital Five-andby Mr. William Lemprière, the senior assist- Thirty Years Ago,' is at least as good an ant clerk of Christ's Hospital. A copy is authority as the not very accurate author of now in the Guildhall Library, and a fas- The Old Court Suburb. PHILIP NORMAN. cinating volume it is.

John Howes was a citizen and grocer who SARAH CURRAN, ROBERT EMMET, AND had been "apprentice and servant" (i.e., clerk MAJOR SIRR'S PAPERS (10th S. iii. 303, 413, 470; or private secretary) within the Greyfriars to iv. 52, 111).-I have perused the contributions Richard Grafton, the first Treasurer-General. under the above heading with considerable In his old age he bethought himself of com- interest, and several pertinent reflections and mitting to writing his recollections of the questions arise. circumstances attending the foundation of Who would presume to say that Sarah the three great charities, and this MS. was Curran was not influenced and misguided by the result. It commences thus :

Emmet, and that she did not excitedly writo "To the Righte Woppfull Mo Norton Mr much which she probably forgot afterwards, Awdeleye & Mi Banckes Treasurer & Governors and would have regretted if she had recol. of Chryste His Hospitall," &c.

lected? When distracted, evidently she be Righte Worshipfull I have uppon good occasion collected & gathered together a brefe note of the

came penitent. As the Attorney - General Order & manner of the proceadings in the fyrste said, Emmet's " Proclamation” to the citizens erec'con of the Hospitalles of Chrystes, Brydowell of Dublin, having aroused them, throw out a and St. Thomas the Apostle, wherein," &c. few words of composure, and, having affected

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to recommend moderation, continued to rently he has not consulted Major Sirr's

every expedient was resorted papers, and his book is based upon the Hardto which would tend to inflame sangụinary wicke Papers and some discovered in the men to the commission of sanguinary deeds." Home Office. The draft of the “Proclamation" in his hand- So far as it is possible to judge, I should writing and the printed copies were found in say Dr. Sirr bore a good character, and he a desk used by him, with many other papers, had direct means of knowing the truth. in one of the depôts where he superintended

ONLOOKER. the manufacture of gunpowder, rockets, cartridges, pikes, &c. Preconceived notions

Hitherto much has appeared in print conseem to have undue weight with some con borders on the imaginative. Notices are

cerning Emmet and Miss Curran which tributors, who appear to think letters must have been pathetic because of a tale that sometimes couched in terms which help to Major Sirr wept over them. But who first foster idolization. But as the 'D.N.B.'article reported it? and what means had he of on Emmet points out, knowing the truth? FRANCESCA refers to

"the youth and ability of Emmet have cast a Phillips's Curran and his Contemporaries,' glamour has been enhanced by his affection for

glamour of romance over his career, and that 1818, but afterwards admits that she merely Sarah Curran, the daughter of the great lawyer, has later editions, which do not mention the to whom Moore addressed his famous poem, ‘Sho matter. As Major Sirr died in 1841, Phillips, is fur from the land where her young hero sleeps'; in 1818, could not have been the authority the lady, afterwards (24 Nov., 1805) married a very for the statement that Major Sirr burnt distinguished officer, Major Sturgeon, of the Royal

Staff Corps." the correspondence "some years previous to his death.

Clearly, therefore, there is room for misAs a clergyman, Dr. Sirr was quite right apprehension on the part of those who make to note anything he could record favourable Emmet their hero and Miss Curran the

heroine. to O'Brien. Most probably the man much maligned, although he was convicted.

The following extract from an article in Dr. Sirr does not condone his offence. Even The Nineteenth Century for September well as to Emmet, Madden has recorded

accounts for the preservation of the two

everything possible in his favour, and, as Mr. unsigned letters of Miss Curran found on SIRR pertinently remarks, who can say Dr.

Emmet when he was arrested and of the Sirr would not have defended either him or essential to make this point clear:

letter he addressed to her from jail. It is Miss Curran from unfair comments ? FRANCESCA says that documents sometimes

* The insurrection, of course, was soon at an end. stated to be destroyed are nevertheless sub-country. He came back to be once more in the

Emmet escaped, and was for a while in hiding in the sequently found, instancing the Wickham vicinity of Sarah Curran, from whom he received Papers. But as to the letters under dis- letters—unsigned, indeed, but, as was said by those cussion, they have been stated (by Madden who afterwards examined him, clearly containing and Daly) to have been destroyed, and Major high treason. They at once showed the writer's Sirr's own son testifies to this; and they have knowledge of her correspondent's aims and her

own sympathies. Mr. MacDonagh remarks that not come to light. MR. MACDONAGH says she hardly seems to have realized the seriousness they never existed; but his argument is un. of the matter. She, however, had the prudence to sound, and he can give no evidence. Madden urge that her letters should be destroyed. This should have raised the question when Dr. Emmet could not bring himself to do, and they Sirr was alive and could have answered. It their being disclosed he was willing to admit every

were found upon him when arrested. To prevent does not seem fair to quote a partisan thing as to himself, but would mention no other work, such as The Sham Squire,' which mis- names, nor follow his brother's exanıple in making represents Major Sirr; but FRANCESCA relies general statements as to the plans of the conspiracy. upon it for a statement of Sir John Gray that Ignorant if the identity of the writer of the letters Dr. Sirr had a fixed belief that all Irish mal- imagined he had gained over, to take a letter openly

was discovered, he employed a turnkey, whom he contents were favourable to assassination, addressed to Miss Curran at her father's house. whereas probably Sir John Gray had the This letter was carried to the authorities, the “fixed belief” himself that Dr. Sirr held the unknown writer identified, and the whole matter opinion. Sir John Gray was editor of The became public.' Freeman's Journal.

Although Emmet's intercepted letter makes Surely, as a “student of Irish history,” Mr. mention of letters " found before,” Mr. MacMacDonagh is not justified in assuming Donaga reiterates that these three letters anything, and he seems "undeservedly to were the only correspondence which fell into besmirch the reputation" of Dr. Sirr. Appa- the hands of the authorities. So far from

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