as

THE

should be much obliged if any correspondent within the closet, administered the powder of 'N. & Q.'could inform me if any traditions to the fair head, the object being that the of this weil still exist in the neighbourhood. hair only should be thus dusted, and the

W. F. PRIDEAUX. dress of the lady saved from the pounce-box. RAINSFORD HALL. I should be ever obliged practical

The process, however, seeming neither

nor comfortable (the possible if you could kindly tell me what number guillotine action of the sash considered). I of The Illustrated London News contained a would ask for information

to hairpicture of Rainsford Hall, co. Lancaster. I think that it was about the year 1870, but who may have a larger acquaintance with

powdering closets from any kind reader it may have been at a much earlier date.

them.

W. L. RUTTON. The Hall was built by Sir John Rains

27, Elgin Avenue, W. ford, Knt., circa 1550, and is represented in

[Powdering gowns and powdering slippers are The Illustrated London News as having been discussed at 9th S. vii. 268, 374, 473, 488.] lately destroyed by fire." I hunted in our National Library here ; but I had to draw it WATSON AND HODGSON FAMILIES.—I am blank.

FREDR. RAINSPORD. collecting materials for genealogical histories 86, Haddington Road, Dublin.

of the families of Watson and Hodgson, and

shall be pleased to hear from any one who PRISONS IN PARIS DURING REVO- has old family papers, deeds, &c. LUTION.—Will any of your readers kindly

GERALD FOTHERGILL. tell me where I can get information about 11, Brussels Road, New Wandsworth, S.W. the above? I wish to know what rules and regulations were in force during the LORD BATHURST AND THE HIGHWAYMAN..Reign of Terror, particularly with regard to In T. P.'s Weekly, 29 September, there is an the treatment, feeding, and general super. anecdote which relates that Lord Bathurst vision of the aristocrat prisoners. Any facts said to a highwayman, “I would never hand relating to their prison life and routine these over were it not for your friend just would be especially valued. Also, were the behind your shoulder.” Taken off his guard, sexes segregated, or confined in separate the gentleman of the road instinctively quarters (or prisons)? or were they allowed turned his head to discover who was so near to mix together ?

E. W.-L. him, and was instantly shot by the peer.

Whence is this story derived ? how old is it? HAIR. POWDERING CLOSETS.—On the second and how many versions are current? I am door of the old palace at Kew (known as informed that in Lincolnshire its hero is a "the Dutch House ” from its having been country squire.

J. E. built, in 1631, by Samuel Forterie or Fortrey, a Dutch gentleman and merchant of London) MARTIN MALAPERT.-The following passage are the bedrooms once used by the princesses, occurs in 'A Treatise concerning the Right daughters of George III. The rooms—not Use and Ordering of Bees.' by Edmund open to general visitors

now quite Southerne, Gent., Loudon, 1593 :vacant, retaining only as relics of the past “Yet I remember once there was a Gentleman, a the old wainscoting and some primitive very friend of mine, which had good store of Bees, wall-paper on canvas ; nor are the fireplaces unto whom the Parson (who yet

liveth, and

I feare notable except in the case of one, which from is one of Martin Malapert's house) came and its character appears to have belonged to the

demanded tythe Bees.” old Tudor mansion that preceded the Dutch

What is the meaning of the clause within House on the same site. There is, however, parentheses, and why Martin? & small room or closet which provokes a

H. J. O. WALKER. question. It is said to have served the

Leeford, Budleigh Salterton. princesses for their hair-powdering, and is HERALDRY.-Can

your

readers name therefore extremely interesting. The closet the following coats ?is partitioned off one of the rooms, is scarcely

1. Quarterly, gules and or, on a bend or ten feet square, and is lighted by a small two falcons azure, a label of three points casement which borrows its light from a argent. window opposite to it. The casement or sash-three feet wide-works up and down chief or. Motto, EN FYN SOIT.

2. Sable, an escallop and three pales in in the usual manner, the sill being thirty- The glass is seventeenth century, and the two inches above the floor, and one arms are not given in Papworth. told that the lady, outside the closet, placed

JOHN T. PAGE. her neck on the sill while the operator, West Haddon, Northamptonshire.

are

any of

“FOUNTAIN-HEADS AND PATHLESS GROVES."

Beplies.
-Can any reader give the origin of these
verses, quoted in Emerson's essay on 'Love'?

MOON NA MES.
Fountain-heads and pathless groves,

(10th S. iv. 289.)
Places which pale passion loves,
Moonlight walks, when all the fowls

EIGHTEEN

years ago (see 7th S. vii. 301) I Are safely housed, save bats and owls, showed that the Anglo-Saxon names of A midnight bell, a passing groan

the months were given on much the same These are the sounds we feed upon.

principle as we now employ the phrases I thought they belonged to Keats, but Harvest Moon” and the like. I also cannot find them, and should not have showed that the familiar statements about suspected him of the inaccuracy of describing these months, which have been cited over a bat as a fowl. EDWARD M. LAYTON. and over again from Verstegan, are nearly [They are by Beaumont, are the second part of all baseless, and due to Verstegan's extreme Melancholy, beginning Hence, all you vain boldness of invention and bluster. Perdelights," and are imitated by Milton in Il Pen-haps it may be interesting to give the seroso.']

modern equivalents of the A.-S. names once EARLY LIFT.--In the 'Greville Memoirs' more, beginning with January. They are: (Genoa, 18 March, 1830, evening) there is a 1. The latter Yule; 2. Mud month; 3. Hretha's reference to the king and queen, who

month (Hretha was a goddess worshipped "for the comfort of their bodies had a machine by the English in their heathen days); made like a car, which is drawn up by a chain from 4. Easter month (Easter was also a goddess); the bottom to the top of the house ; it holds about 5. Three - milkings month; 6. The former six people, who can be at pleasure elevated to any Lithe (i.e., warm month); 7. The latter Lithe; story, and at each landing-place there is a contri- 8. Weed month; 9. Holy month; 10. Stormvance to let them in and out." Is this the first mention of anything down leaves and broken boughs); 11. Sacri.

felling month (the month when storms bring approaching our modern "lift"?

fice month; 12. The former Yule. FRANK SCHLOESSER. 15, Grosvenor Road, Westminster, S.W.

For a fuller account see the article referred

to. [See 7th S. X. 85; 9th S. x. 412, 465; xi. 154; 9th S.

I regret to say that "Mud month” is as vi. 313.]

appropriate as ever. WALTER W. SKEAT. CUSTOM OF THraves.--I shall be glad to following were in use: August, Haymakers';

In South Lincolnshire forty years ago the learn the origin of this church custom. WILLIAM ANDREWS.

September, Harvest or Harvesters'; October, Royal Institution, Hull.

Shooters'; November, Hunters'. The late

ness of the first two is accounted for by “TOTUM SUME, FLUIT.”—Can any of your their having been interchanged in old days; readers afford a solution to the following? before the inclosures (see General View of The answer would be in one word, and of the Agriculture of the County of Lincoln,' course in Latin:

1799, drawn up for the Board of Agriculture Totum sume, fluit: caudam procide, volabit. by its Secretary, p. 195) hay was cut, left in Tolle caput, pugnat. Viscera carpe, dolet. gwarth, unturned, until it became yellow,

H. P. S. and gathered in September after the corn PISHOKEN.'—Who wrote · Pishoken,' sung makers month, and August the harvesters'.

harvest; thus September was then the hayoff Deptford by Hogarth and his friends on

ALFRED WELBY. their way down the river ?

J. A. CRAWLEY. Your correspondent VALTYNE asks for names WILLIAM MORRIS'S WELSH ANCESTRY.

of different moons. I find in Longfellow's Mention is made in J. W. Mackail's Life of Song, of Hiawatha'," the Moon of Snow. William Morris' of his Welsh ancestry. Who shoes," “ the Moon of Leaves," and "the Moon were his ancestors in Wales ?

A. W.

of Strawberries." The references will be found

in canto ii. :-
LYRICAL BALLADS': MOTTO.-Can any of In the night when nights are brightest,
your readers help me as to the source of the In the dreary Moon of Snow Shoes.
motto which Wordsworth put on the title- In canto v. :-
page of the 1800 edition of Lyrical Ballads'? First he built a lodge for fasting,
Quam nihil ad genium,

In the Moon of Leaves he built it.
Papiniane, tuum.

In canto vii.:-
WILLIAM KNIGHT.

When the birds were singing gaily,
Malvern.

In the Moon of Leaves were singing.

we

6

<C
moon names

66

In canto xi.:

division between the two sciences as As the sighing, singing branches

know them now; so that we find that even In the pleasant Moon of Strawberries. the greatest of the commentators was styled, The month of snowshoes I presume to be not "S. Pag. Doctor,” but “Theologus." Thus, January; the month of leaves, May; and for example, the famous Cornelius à Lapide, the month of strawberries, July.

in his great work on Scripture, is referred to,

JAMES WATSON. by the Censor Deputatus, by the General Folkestone.

of the Order, and by the Provincial of the There is "running in my head” the open: nostræ Theologus." And there also, in the

Society in Flanders, merely as “Societatis ing verse of an old glee, given below, which may be of interest to your correspondent; Hispaniarum, Indiarum, &c....... Rex Catho

"Summa Privilegii Regii Philippi-Dei gratia although it does not support his provisional licus," he is somewhat further particularized arrangement of Come out, 'tis now September,

as a theologian and as Sacrarum Litterarum The Hunters' Moon's begun,

olim in collegio Romano Professor." Here, And through the wheaten stubble

naturally, as in the modern acceptation of Is heard the frequent gun.

the word, the term “Professor” simply imCHARLES HIGHAM. plied that the person indicated occupied the [The glee in question was sung forty odd years the University of Louvain was specially re

Chair of Scripture at the said college. Further, ago at Evans's. ]

markable for the prominence given there to “SACRÆ PAGINÆ PROFESSOR” (10th S. iv.

the study of the Sacred Scriptures in the 188, 273). - Anent the notes on this subject theological course ; but is there any evidence that have already appeared, perhaps the sub- of a degree” being given ? Lamy himself,

?

in his 'Introductio in Sacram Scripturam,' joined remarks may not be out of place. 1. That the expression “Sacra pagina." "S. Theologiæ Doctor ; Hermeneuticæ Sacræ

is designated in the prefatory notes as merely does signify Holy Writ may be, I think, established by a reference to the third anti: et Lingg. Orient. in universitate Catholica

Lovaniensi Professor." phon of the Office of Lauds for the feast of Pope St. Gregory the Great, 12 March, which like to know whether a " degree"

for Scrip

Being interested in the subject, I should is as follows: "Dum paginæ sacræ mysterią ture did exist in earlier times. If so, where panderet, columba nive candidior apparuit," and when was it conferred ? B. W. the allusion being, of course, to St. Gregory's

Fort Augustus. study of the Scriptures. And à propos of the same idea, the seventh verse of the hymn EPHIS AND HIS LION (10th S. ii. 448). — Anglorum jam Apostolus,' by St. Peter The story referred to by Charles Reade in Damien, which is said at Vespers and Laudsch. lxxiv. of "The Cloister and the Hearth' on that day, runs thus :

is to be found in Pliny's Nat. Hist.,' viii. Scripturæ sacræ mystica

16 (21), $$ 57, 58. The man's name is Elpis. Mire solvis ænigmata:

EDWARD BENSLY.
Theorica mysteria
Te docet ipsa Veritas.

COPENHAGEN HOUSE (10th S. iv. 205, 295).2. Was there ever a formal “degree” known Not one of the authorities quoted by MR.

“Sacræ Paginæ Doctor"?" I ask this J. HOLDEN MacMICHAEL provides sufficient question in all simplicity. There may have evidence to suggest that Francis Place's imbeen, and the evidence produced by W. B. pression of the decay of this pleasure resort (p. 273) seems to suggest that there was-i.e., in 1824 was erroneous. if the “S.P.D.” quoted by him does there The Picture of London' of almost every stand for “Sacræ Paginæ Doctor"; but I year between 1816 and 1830 simply, records would venture to hazard the opinion (and I its existence under Tea Gardens, giving no may be wrong) that no such degree was ever information as to its relative importance or given. Until comparatively modern times prosperity. Admitting that the dead dog the study of Holy Writ was considered, and the duckweed are insufficient evidences, ecclesiastically, as forming part of the theo- we are justified in believing that a good logical curriculum. In olden times a “ theo- democrat like Place would have taken logian” taught the Scripture course, in pleasure in recording the success and popular accordance with this reflection : "Theologia patronage of the tavern if it existed. omnium scientiarum est regina :

Supplementing the information contained theologiæ anima est Scripturarum scientia." in My Lifetime, the late Mr. John HolIn those days there was no hard-and-fast lingshead sent me several letters on the

)

as

"The

tea gardens and resorts of Islington as he name sometimes appears as “ Corisandre." remembered them. "Copenhagen House," It is so written in Larousse, and by M. Cape

, he writes, was very celebrated for walking figue in his book on Gabrielle d'Estrées.' matches, but 'Deerfoot,' whom you mention, I wonder from what romantic tale or poem walked or ran at Lillie Bridge." This is not Diane's flattering title was taken. quite correct. Deerfoot frequently took part

A. L. MAYHEW. in matches at Copenhagen House.

Corisande is one of the characters in Rosemary Branch, at Hoxton, was used for a

Amadis of Gaul.' I may mention that I walking track round the pond. Most of these found the name of Esmeralda in 'Palmerin places had ponds or small lakes.” In another of England.' It is the Spanish for emerald, letter he records that the cricket matches and may be commonly used as a female name. were very unimportant, and the house was But it is certain that Victor Hugo was not mostly frequented by the lower classes, who the first to use it in fiction. E. YARDLEY. occasionally arranged a "milling" contest in the less frequented parts of the field. THE GREYFRIARS BURIAL-GROUND (10th S.iv.

I have been the recipient of other recollec- 205, 253).-In reply to MR. ALECK ABRAHAMS tions of the “old Cope," and all agree that I venture to state that, from evidence I have while its disappearance was to be regretted, received as to the discovery of so many its last years were very disreputable. skeletons upon the site of this burial-ground,

ALECK ABRAHAMS. just outside the City wall, tbey are the 39, Hillmarton Road.

remains mostly, if not entirely, of the friars WAITCOMBE FAMILY (10th S. iv. 208). — The Black Death in 1348-9, which carried off

who had died during the visitation of the following stray notes may be of some assist such a large number of the population of the ance to MR. REGINALD STEWART BODDINGTON. City of London. F. G. HILTON PRICE. There was a lawsuit, temp. Queen Elizabeth,

17, Collingham Gardens, S.W. in connexion with Lyme Regis, Dorset, to which a William Whetcombe was a party.

SWEDISH ROYAL FAMILY (10th S. iii. 409, From a schedule of deeds penes me relating to 456; iv. 91, 196, 293). — The MARQUIS DE the “Lamb and Lark" Inn at Keynsham, RUVIGNY is surely wrong in stating that the Somersetshire, I gather that a former lessee wife of Frederick IV., Duke of Holstein of this inn with a curious sign was one Gottorp, was the eldest daughter of Charles X., Elizabeth Little, of Bristol, widow, whose and sister to Charles XI. Should this not daughter Margaretta, or Margaret, was aged read-daughter of Charles XI., and sister to about seven years on 10 August, 1762, the Charles XII. It is strange how inevitable date of the indenture of lease. The mother inaccuracies seem to be in accounts of the made her will 5 August, 1772, and a further Swedish succession. A writer in the current deed of 4 June, 1780, recites that the settle number of_The Royalist not merely (followment upon the marriage of the daughter with ing The Legitimist Kalendar') makes the Samuel Whitcombe was dated 2 June, 1779. Grand Duchess of Baden, Sophia, born in

GEORGE F. T. SHERWOOD. 1801, a daughter of Gustavus III., who 50, Beecroft Road, Brockley, S.E.

died in 1792, but makes King Adolphus CORISANDE (10th S. iv. 247): — "La belle instead of his second cousin, confusing her,

Frederick's mother a sister of Charles XII.,

. Corisande" was the naine given to Diane d'Andouins, the mistress of Henri IV. (Henry Frederick of Holstein Gottorp, ancestor of

apparently, with the mother of Charles of Navarre). She held despotic sway over the Russian house, and thus finding the Henry's fickle affections for many years, but

the had to yield at length to the more attractive representative of Gustavus Vasa in and more famous Gabrielle d'Estrées. Diape,

Queen Dowager of Saxony, instead of the

P. J. ANDERSON. when thirteen years old, married Philibert

present Czar. de Grammont, Comte de Guiche, and was 'BYWAYS IN THE CLASSICS' (10th S. iv. left a widow in 1580 at the age of twenty-six. 261).—As I noticed that the version of James The correspondence between the king and Smith's lines on Æneas given by MR. D. C. “la comtesse de Guiche” has been preserved, Tovey differed from that quoted by myself and been published in a book called 'Lettres from Barham's 'Life of Theodore Hook,' and intimes de Henri IV.,' edited by Dussieux, as both differed from the version given by 1876. The letters are very business-like, Mr. Hugh Platt (see p. 52 of his book), I have mostly on affairs of State and about prepara- thought it worth while to endeavour to trace tions for war. The name of “Corisande the original. I have accordingly referred to was given to Diane before her marriage. Her "Memoirs, Letters, and Comic Miscellanies,

a

a

in Prose and Verse, of the late James Smith, 644 in the recent catalogue. It is entitled Esq. Edited by his brother Horace Smith *The Roman Daughter,' and is stated to be (London, Colburn, 1840). Among the epi- the work of Caravaggio. On the picture, grams, &c., collected there, under the heading however, there is a query after the artist's Martial in London,' I find (vol. ii. p. 193) name.

P. D. LUCAS. the verses given exactly as quoted by MR. Tovey. I presume, therefore, that this must Hall, near Otley, the residence of F. H.

The original of this picture is at Farnley be accepted as the authoritative version, Fawkes, Esq., and is named "The Roman's although, in my opinion, the reading given

Daughter.'

G. D. L. by Barham seems the better of the two.

T. F. D. There is a mural painting from Pompeii in Byron ignorantly writes :

the Naples Museum representing Perone In short, the maxin for the amorous tribe is saving the life of her father Cimon by this Horatian, “Medio tu tutissimus ibis."

method ; it is generally known by the title of * Don Juan,' canto vi. stanza 17.

Greek Charity,' and has been a favourite 'Medio tutissimus ibis" does not belong to subject among painters of different countries Horace. It is in Ovid's Metamorphoses,' and ages.

MATTHEW H. PEACOCK. book ii. l. 137. The "tu" certainly is not Wakefield. there. It would spoil the Latin metre; and it is not necessary in the English verse. I

This painting will be found in one of the do not know whether it has been noticed that public galleries in Holland, I_think in

Haarlem.

P. W. A. Ovid's "Fas est et ab hoste doceri” may have arisen from a line of Aristophanes :

[A. W. H. C. also thanked for reply.] αλλ' απ' εχθρών δητα πολλά μανθάνουσιν οι AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (10th S. copoi."Birds,' l. 376.

iv. 10, 158, 273). “In my edition of the South Dryden has some lines which may have Place ‘Hymns and Anthems' (1873), Harriet been suggested by Oyid :

Martineau's fine hymn-poem is No. 59, and Eternal Deities !

on the first page it is stated that the collecWho rule the world with absolute decrees,

tion was

"selected and arranged by W. J. And write whatever time shall bring to pass, Fox, 1841.” My memories of South Place With pens of adanant on plates of brass. Chapel during Mr. Moncure D. Conway's

• Palamon and Arcite.' ministrations there are among the happiest Dryden's original, Chaucer, seems also to of my life.

JAMES HOOPER. have had Ovid in mind. What is fated is

Norwich. engraved on adamant in the poems of Ovid and Chaucer. The following are Ovid's lines: name Tait is not connected in any way with the

TESTOUT (10th S. iv. 69, 131, 297). —The surSola insuperabile fatum French teste. It should be compared rather Nata, movere paras ? intres licet ipsa sororum Tecta trium : cernes illic moliniide vasto

with the name Gay than with Head, as it Ex aere et solido rerum tabularia ferro;

appears to be from the old Norse personal Quæ neque concursum cæli neque fulminis iram, name Teit, which means cheerful. As to the Nec metuunt ullas, tuta atque æterna, ruinas. pronunciation of Grosseteste, all its conInvenies illic, incisa adamante perenni, Fata tui generis.

sonants should be sounded, i.e., the last Metamorphoses,' book xv. ll. 807-14.

syllable like our word "test.” It is so marked

— Returning to the question of sibilation in by all the orthoepists,

Thomas (1870), Wor

(), &c. poetry, I may point out that the line which

JAS. PLATT, Jun. Dr. Johnson praised above all others for euphony has much of the sound of s in it:

At the last reference W. R. H. notes : “The Formosam resonare doces Amaryllida silvas.

English Dames Tait and Tate are probably

derived from teste or tête." But I would The way in which the s is distributed and recall a very early example of the personal the suitableness of the other letters in the verse make the difference between euphony Northumbria took to wife the daughter of

name Tate, where, in A.D. 625, Edwin of and cacophony. But this subject has been Ethelbert, King of Kent, whose name was discussed before in ‘N. & Q.'

E. YARDLEY.

Ethelberga, and

who was also called by another

name, Tate. The authority for this is the PRISONER SUCKLED BY HIS DAUGHTER (10th Venerable Bede, whose text reads : ÆdilS. iv. 307).- A picture on this subject hangs bergæ filia Ædilbercti regis, quæ alio nomine over the fireplace in the Prince of Wales's Tatæ uocabatur” (Hist. Eccl.,' ii. 9, Plumbedroom at Hampton Court, and is numbered mer's ed. i. p. 97).

Tat is defined soft,