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his project of a settlement in New England returned in 654 to Lindisfarne, where he had in The Planter's Plea; or, the Grounds of been trained, to seek the advice of Bishop Plantations Examined” (London, 1630). The Finan, who, gratified at the labours of his colony is said to have come from Dorsetshire pupil, made him bishop for the race of the East and the neighbouring counties.

Saxons (Camden says he was Bishop of West Mathew Grant therefore probably came Tilbury). Returning to his work, Cedd from the south of England, but there is no carried it on with greater energy than before, definite statement as to his ancestry or building churches and ordaining presbyters locality. General Grant distinctly declined and deacons to assist him in preaching and to recognize any connexion with the better baptizing, especially in that city, which is known Scotch families of that name. Can called in the Saxon tongue Ythancæster any of the readers of 'N. & Q.' give infor- and also that which is called Tilabury mation as to the Grants of Dorsetshire in i.e., Tilbury). Cedd died in 664 from the the seventeenth century?

plague. Mr. Shawcross, in a foot-note, states J. P. LAMBERTON. that Ythancæster cannot be identified, and Philadelphia

asks, “Was it Upminster ?" Can any reader PLESHEY FORTIFICATIONS. -I should be

throw light on the identity of this early seat of Christianity in Britain ?

E. C. much obliged if some one would refer me to a book where I could obtain a trustworthy MANEIS : MAYNE.-In Rentals and Surveys, history of the fortifications at Pleshey, near 20 Jas. I., Roll 626, mention is made of Sir Chelmsford.

Anto. Maneis as a 'holder of Crown land in Can anybody inform me to what period Egham. In the Feet of Fines Trin., 6 Jas. I., the bridge spanning the moat belongs ? The is mention of Ant. Mayne, Esq. I should be arch and brickwork appear to be of ancient glad to know where I can obtain

further date.

ROBINIA.

information regarding this gentleman. I "Love IN PHANTASTICK TRIUMPH SAT.”.

presume the two entries refer to one and the

FREDERIC TURNER.

same person. Has Aphra Behn's magnificent love song, of which this is the first line, been reprinted in

"FOSTELL,"“FOSLETT," A COFFER OR CASKET. any anthology, old or new? or is it only to be found in its proper place, at the beginning obsolete, rare," the definition

-In the ‘N.E.D.' the word fostell appears as

a cask," of her tragedy of Abdelazer'? R. MARSHAM-TOWNSHEND.

and derivation O.F. fustaille, modern French

futaille, a cask, being interrogatively prof[It appears in The Flower of the Mind,' an 'fered, while as an illustration of its use in anthology by Mrs. Meynell (Grant Richards).]

1570 the lines are quoted : CROMWELL HOUSE, HIGHGATE. —Can any

I leif to thee at niy last ende of your readers inform me whether there is

Of fantisie ane fostell fillit fow. any authority for the statement that the I would submit that casket rather than cask above house was built by the Protector is the true interpretation. It certainly lends for his son-in-law, General Ireton, and that itself more gracefully to the above metaphor, the Protector himself occasionally visited the reminding one of George Herbert's “Box place, or resided there for a time? Howitt, where sweets compacted lie.”. in his Northern Heights of London,' states Casket or box is the definition given in the that the house was built by Cromwell about 'N.E.D.' for the words forcelet or forslet (said 1630,, " for the residence of General Ireton, to be corruptly from O.F. forceret), other who had married one of his daughters." This forms being fostler, forcer, fosser, fosset, &c. is obviously wrong, for Ireton did not marry I can bring forward two variants that are Bridget Cromwell until 1646.

not to be found in the ‘N.E.D.,' viz., in the

HENRY JOHNSON. • Tavistock Church wardens' Accounts,' edited YTHANCÆSTER, Essex. - The Rev. J. P. by R. N. Worth, under 1538-9, “For ij new

, Shawcross, in his History of Dagenham; B. & A. Eliz. W. 15/50, "one little box, foslett '

keyes to the long fostelett"; and in Chancery co. Essex, 1904, p. 267, under Chadwell

kaskett." Heath,' refers to Ceadda, Cedd, or Chad (one of the two saints of that name), being sent cited be traced to the Latin fossu, like fosse,

Might not some, if not all, of the forms by Oswy, King of Northumbria, from Mid Anglia, with another, to preach the Gospel a ditch, fossette, a little hollow, &c. ?

ETHEL LEGA-WEEKES. in Essex, "where, having gone through all parts, they gathered a large church for the BISHOP Cox of Ely. (See 10th S. iii. 269.)— Lord." Encouraged by this success, Cedd Can any reader give me information regarding

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the family history of Richard Cox, Bishop of exact proportion of words that Shakspere Ely, 1581, and first Dean of Christ Church, and Bacon have in common, not being words Oxford, beyond that given in the 'D.N.B.'' common to all writers of that period.". I I am specially anxious to obtain it.

shall be glad to know where I can see the E. G. C. result of his investigations.

Q. V. “NADGAIRS.”—I should be glad to learn the meaning of the word “Nadgairs” in the following title of “Les Reports du tres erudite

Beplies, Edmund Anderson, Chivalier, Nadgairs, Seigniour Chief Justice del Common-Bank. " CONCERTS OF ANTIENT MUSIC.” London, Printed by T. R. for Andrew Crook

(10th S. iii. 488.) [and others] and are to be sold at their Shops. 1664." ARTHUR DENMAN.

THE “ King's Concert Rooms” in Totten29, Cranley Gardens, S.W.

ham Street were built about 1770 by [Is it possible that the word is an effort after associated in the undertaking with Michael

Francis Pasquali (not Paschali), who was naguère=fornierly?]

Novosielski, the builder of the rooms and HOGARTH.-On 3 June, at Christie's, was husband of Pasquali's daughter Regina, who sold this artist's conversation piece,"

"The afterwards became a celebrated singer. In Wanstead Assembly,' which fetched the sum the King's Rooms” were held the “Concerts of 2,8871. 10s. Hogarth was thirty-one years of Antient Music” from about 1770 to 1794, of age when he painted this picture for Lord when they were transferred to the King's Castlemaine. Is there any record of so large Theatre in the Haymarket, which had been a sum ever before having been given for a built by Novosielski as an opera-house in painting by an artist at that age 1 Further, 1790, and which survived as "Her Majesty's is not that the largest sum ever paid for a Theatre” till 1867, when it was destroyed by Hogarth?

J. HARRIS STONE. fire. In April, 1786, Pasquali and Novosielski Oxford and Cambridge Club.

had leased the rooms to the directors of the [What about Raphael?]

"Concerts of Antient Music" for a period of PAUL FAMILY.-Can any reader state in

twenty-one years. Further information rewhat actions George Paul took part? His either flourished or withered as a theatre

garding this place of entertainment, which first commission as lieutenant was in 1783, under many names, will be found in St. Panand it is believed that he rose to the rank of cras Notes and Queries, pp. 83, 85, 108, 180a, Commodore. He was living, in 1829. The 207, 214, and 216. I have been informed that district from which he hailed is thought to only about forty complete copies of this have been New Alresford or Winchester. Is valuable periodical are in existence, but one it known who his ancestors were ? F. P.

will be found in the British Museum. WILLIAM MASON'S PORTRAITS.- What ori

W. F. PRIDEAUX. ginal portraits of William Mason, the poet, So early as the year 1710, several eminent are known? I possess a copy of his 'Elfrida,' composers and performers in London conwith an engraving, facing to the left, by certed a plan for the study and practice of Ridley, "from an original painting.” Where vocal and instrumental music. This scheme, is this? Possibly in Pembroke College, Cam- supported and encouraged by persons of bridge, though I do not remember seeing it the first rank, was the starting point of the there. T. CANN HUGHES, M.A. F.S.A. Academy of Ancient Music," instituted at Lancaster.

the Crown and Anchor" in the Strand. ‘CORYAT'S CRUDITIES': ERROR IN 1905 Amongst the distinguished authors of the EDITION.-In MacLehose's edition of Coryat's project were Dr. Pepusch, Mr. John Lamert, book, at p. 98 of the second volume (p. 379 of Galliard, and Mr. Gates, gentleman of the the original edition), some words are omitted. King's Chapel. But the Concert of Ancient Ll. 7, 8, read thus : either with fair monu

Music,” known later as the King's Conments, or beautified by, Carolus Magnus." cert, was a branch which seceded from the What are the words which are omitted ?

Academy of Ancient Music. The younger J. F. R.

society was also known as the Ancient Godalming.

Concert," and was established in 1776, when

Thomas Greatorex (who arranged mapy SHAKESPEARE'S VOCABULARY.— Nearly three musical compositions for the “Concert” by years ago MR. REGINALD HAINES wrote (9th S. adding complete orchestral, vocal, and X. 52) that he hoped shortly to state the instrumental parts, to what, perhaps, was

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only a duet or air) assisted in the choruses able last word. I would, however, point out Crosdill, too, the celebrated English violon- that the querist has confused the names of cellist, was principal 'cellist at the first in two plays of a somewhat similar character, stitution of the Ancient Concerts. In 1800 The Streets of London' and The Lights o' François Cramer was appointed leader; and London, both of which were produced at the in 1803 among the vocal performers, who Princess's Theatre. The first play, written were always of the first class, and liberally by Mr. Boucicault, was produced on 1 August, paid,” were Mrs. Billington ; Mr. and Mrs. 1864, and, as Mr. E. L. Blanchard informs us Harrison, the former being considered the in his sketch of this theatre, was played most finished singer of his age or country, every night during the rest of the year, and or perhaps of Europe ; Madame Bianchi ; remained on the bills until 20 March, 1865, Mr. Bartleman, the celebrated bass (see The having had a consecutive run of 209 nights. Quarterly Musical Review, vol. i. p. 325); Mr. It was revived in March, 1866, and enjoyed W. Knyvett, an airy and elegant writer of another run until May; and was again in the glees, and eminent counter-tenor; and Mr. bills at Christmas, 1867. This was during Sale (? J. B. Sale, an eminent bass). See fur- the time the theatre was in the hands of ther the ' Dictionary of Musicians, 1827, and Mr. George Vining, which commenced on the Picture of London' for 1803 and 1818. 27 March, 1863, and terminated on 18 October,

J. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL. 1868, there having, however, been in addition These concerts were held at the theatre in several short seasons by various actors and Tottenham Street. Mr. George Clinch, in his actresses during that time. 'Marylebone and St. Pancras,' states that

The other play, 'The Lights o' London,' the theatre was built by Francis Pasquali in described as a drama in five acts, was written the

year 1780, at the suggestion of the Earl by Mr. George R. Sims, and produced on of Sandwich, and that it was first known as 10 September, 1881, Mr. Wilson Barrett being "The King's Ancient Concert Rooms."

That The following advertisement from The gentleman played the part of Harold, while Morning Chronicle of 16 February, 1776, the character of Bess was taken by Miss points to an earlier date, and perhaps to an

Eastlake. The last night of the old' earlier building :

Princess's Theatre was 19 May, 1880, so that Pasquali's New Room for Concerts and Assem

the first-named play was produced in the old blies in Tottenham Street, near Rathbone Place house, while the other piece first saw the At the particular request of several ladies and light in the new one, the last lessee of the gentlemen, a subscription is opened for four assem- old house being, I believe, Mr. Walter Gooch. blies, once a fortnight on Tuesdays, viz., February 22, The data here given may be of interest to March 12 and 26, and April 9. Conditions: A sub- many besides the contributor who first scriber pays two guineas, for which he will have three tickets each night for the admission of him. brought the subject forward. I would add self and two ladies; and the company will (besides that Louis Diehl, who set to music the words music) be entertained with different refreshments, given by MR. PAGE, had a great vogue some such as are generally used on like occasions, without years ago, many of his songs being justly any further expense. Subscriptions are received at

W. E. HARLAND-OXLEY. the above music room, and timely notice will be

very popular. advertised when the tickets are to be delivered."

Westminster.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.

[See ante, p. 45.] [The dates of the Tuesdays do not agree.] JOHN Rolt Nixon (10th S. iv. 29).-—"FarnThese concerts were established in 1776, been informed that it was the grandfather

sham" is a misprint for Favershan. I have and were first conducted by Joah Bates. “Up to 1795 they were held in the new father of the poet did not take the business

of J. R. Nixon who lived here, and that the rooms in Tottenham Street, but in that year of Thiselton in this town, but probably re

to -room in the Opera-house, and in 1804 to the Hạnover moved to Stepney much earlier,

perhaps in Square Rooms." See Grove's Dictionary of

the twenties.

CHARLES SMITH.

Faversham. Music,' 1879, vol. i. pp. 64-5.

G. F. R. B. “RESP.” (10th S. iv. 9).- The contraction

resp. as used by German writers has puzzled "THE STREETS OF LONDON' (10th S. iii. 428, many people. It is short for respective, and 476).—The reply of our friend MR. J. T. Page it means or under similar circumstances." settles most completely the query asked at It is not the same as "in other words." the first reference, and leaves nothing further Germans can often not explain the word, to be said upon the matter, it being a verit-las it does not strike them that there is no

synonym for it in English or French. Thus The d is an occasional variant of th, espeI might say, "Adjectives precede substantives cially as a capital letter, and Leofden is in German and English, and follow them in thus a permissible and recognized variant of French and Italian : thus schön, resp. beau- Leofthegn, in which the th was written as a tiful, will come before their substantive, and crossed D. Leofthegn is a well-authenticated beau, resp. bello, will follow that which they and extremely intelligible name. It occurs qualify;" I have come across a passage in in the Liber Vitæ of Durham, and

means, Paul's * Principien’ which may serve to illus. literally, “ dear thane." trate the use of “respective” in German :

One key to the amazing assertions of our “Ein zweites mittel, wodurch das wort bezie- old antiquaries is to remember that they hung auf etwas concretes erhält, bildet das ein. usually know nothing of Anglo-Saxon, and gespräch, respective in der einseitigen ausein had few books to help them. Some of our andersetzung des redenden vorangegangene.' modern antiquaries are even worse ; for they

“ Another means whereby the word receives its pose as knowing Anglo-Saxon when they power of reference to something concrete and can neither read nor pronounce it, and they precise is what has preceded in the conversation of the speaker, or, it may be, in his explanation do not even take the trouble of consulting given from his point of view."

any of the fairly numerous authorities. H. A. STRONG.

WALTER W. SKEAT. University, Liverpool.

MR. OATES should consult Ruding's ‘Annals This contraction, written out in full, would of the Coinage of Great Britain,' 1840, vol. ii. be in German respektiv, from mediæval Latin p. 229. From the observations made upon respectivē. The original sense was, of course, the subject it evidently is a fallacy that any

respectively" or "relatively,” but in modern of the kings of England had a mint at Leeds. German it is employed with much the same

JOHN RADCLIFFE. meaning as "or," or the French ou bien. BENSON EARLE HILL (10th S. iii. 162, 472).

JAS. PLATT, Jun.

- The peerage inquired for at the last referAs used by German writers this abbrevia- ence was the Earldom of Huntingdon. It tion stands for the Latin respective, and is the was dormant from 1804 to 1819, when equivalent of " bzw." =" beziehungsweise." (14 January) Lieut. Hans Francis Hastings,

• In practice this word, which should mean R.N., was summoned and took his seat as

respectively," often expresses little more Earl of Huntingdon. According to G. E. C.'s than "or." LIONEL R. M. STRACHAN. ‘Complete Peerage' he was the fourth and Heidelberg, Germany.

youngest, but only surviving son and heir This is one of those contractions of which 3rd Regiment of Foot Guards.

of Lieut. - Col. George Hastings, of the Germans seen inordinately fond. Flügel, educated at Repton and elsewhere, joined 6.V. Respectiv, exemplifies it thus :

4 resp. the naval service 1793, Lieutenant R.N. 1799, 41%, 4 or say 45 per cent." The source is Commander 1821, and, finally, Post-Captain clearly the Latin respectus, the sense being

1824. He was Ordnance Barrack Master in 4, with some consideration of 41."

J. DORMER.

the Isle of Wight, and afterwards from 1808

to 1817 Ordnance Storekeeper at Enniskillen, Having bought Prof. Kluge's 'Etymo- His claim to the earldom was reported as logical Dictionary soon after its publication, proved 29 October, 1818, by (Shepherd) the I took it to a Swiss village as my literary Attorney-General, and he took his seat as pabulum for a fortnight, and became worried stated above. See also The Huntingdon by the recurrence of this expression, then Peerage,' &c., by Henry Nugent Bell (4to, new to me, on almost every page. I thought, 1820), “ whose exertions in assisting the and think, that it was unnecessary claim to the title were very great." and unworthy addition to

to the simple From the foregoing it would appear that German language; but it may contain an B. E. Hill's Recollections were inaccurate inward grace not generally patent. Those in more than one particular. C. S. H. who have read Benedix's comedy . Die Mode' can imagine what fun he would have made

THE HORSEFERRY, WESTMINSTER (10th S. of “Resp.” By the way, are we not alone in ji. 248).

The Archbishop of Canterbury using the convenient abbreviation of the held the Horseferry from Westminster to Lat. id est ?

H. P. L.

Lambeth up to the erection of Westminster

Bridge, when he was allowed 2,2051. for loss of MINT AT LEEDS, YORKSHIRE (10th S. iii. the same, which was funded (“The Origin and 489). — Thoresby's assumption that Leofdegn Progress of the Watermen's Company, by is a mistake happens to be totally wrong. Henry Humpherus, 1887, vol. i. p. 26)." The

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Horseferry tolls were very considerable when Mr. MacDonagh even goes further, for he London had but one bridge over the Thames, remarks :so that it must have been very desirable for

“ The letters that passed between them (Miss persons arriving at the Westminster side to Curran and Enimet), which fell into the hands of know how they stood with regard to the the authorities will be found fully set out in my distance at which they found themselves recently published book.” from London. The Westminster horse ferry What does Mr. MacDONAGH mean by was the only one allowed on the Thames at "authorities”? Surely he would not exclude or near London, a circumstance which would Major Sirr. It appears that Mr. MacDONAGH give the spot on the Middlesex side an ought to have said :importance for travellers which probably

“Two or three letters that passed between suggested the iron tablet in question stating them (when Emmet was banned and harassed], that the ferry was “24 miles from the Post which fell into the hands of the authorities, will be Office." J. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL. found fully set out,” &c.

Again, Mr. MacDonagh goes further when CARNEGIE: ITS PRONUNCIATION (10th S. iii. he remarks that it is sufficient to say the 487). —This surname is common in Forfar- girl's letters " impressed George III.” “These shire and not unfamiliar in Fife. As pro- | letters I found in the Home Office papers. nounced in my hearing hundreds of times in Why is it sufficient to say this? I understand both counties it rimes conveniently with Mr. MacDonagh is himself the authority for

plaguy." Glasgow suburb I once the copy of the King's written comment in heard the philanthropic millionaire named a note to the Lord Lieutenant, “Emmet's Çárnegie, but the pronunciation was obviously correspondence with the daughter of Mr. due to unfamiliarity, and it was used by only Curran is certainly curious.” one person in a company of over a dozen, the The ‘D.N.B.' refers to Madden's 'Lives of others all being orthodox in treatment. the United Irishmen,' third series, vol. iii.

THOMAS BAYNE. (1846), for the best account of Robert Emmet, The bearer of a name is commonly estimated and on p. 257 the following words of Madden to be a good judge of its pronunciation, and will be found with reference to Emmet :I think Mr. Andrew Carnegie pronounces his

During the whole period of his last residence in name so as to rime with “plaguy," and this is Dublin, after his return from the Continent, ad the usual phonetic sound given the name.

active correspondence was carried on between him

and Miss Curran. This correspondence, coniprising WM. JAGGARD. what has been termed 'a sheaf of notes and letters,

fell into the hands of the Irish Verres, Major Sirr. SARAH CURRAN, ROBERT EMMET, AND They remained long in his possession......classed MAJOR SIRR'S PAPERS (10th S. iii. 303, 413, with rebellious papers.'......The entire of those 470).—If Mr. MacDonagh had been a loyal letters, it is stated on good authority, were burned clergyman living in the earlier part of the by Major Sirr, some years before his death ; from last century, possibly he would have described to inquire into his motive for this act, as it is

compassionate feelings, it is said......It is needless as wicked, projects violently revolutionary fruitless to lament the destruction of them.” which must have entailed bloodshed. I know

Mr. Daly, also, has accepted Dr. Sirr's veraof noreason why Dr.D'Arcy Sirr's words should city in revising Madden's book, but doubtless not be taken in their apparent sense. MR. Mr. Daly would have qualified his own declaraMacDonagh, however, says of Dr. Sirr's note tion had he seen the letters brought to light that it is “ a notable illustration of how the by Mr. MacDonagh. But qualification, so events of history are perverted, and the repu- far as evidence goes, could but relate (as I tation of historical personages is undeservedly understand) to two letters written by Miss besmirched,” and he further says of it, “ All Curran to poor Emmet before his arrest, this is atrocious aspersion upon the memories when he was hiding and disheartened by the of Robert Emmet and Sarah Curran."

“Of failure of his treasonable plans, of which course, the calumnies of the Rev. J. D'Arcy letters Mr. MacDonagh himself writes :Sirr are totally destitute of foundation." I think these assertions show serious mis. ill-timed witticisms of the letters, may have been

“What appears to us the unseemly gaiety, the apprehension, and a total disregard of all but the effort of a distracted mind to hide its own canons of modern historical criticism. Dr. grief, and give encouragement and hope to a banned Sirr has not perverted history in any way, and harassed lover." and there is not the slightest evidence to The letter written to Sarah Curran in show that he would not have tried to defend prison by Emmet, which he tried secretly to Robert Emmet or Sarah Curran from unfair send, never reached her. These letters have comment

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